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I've been forced to use gnome on my school laptop as I need tablet support and kde dropped the ball on that front. I hate it so much, but at least it works.
No tablet here, just a large touch monitor, but haven't had any issues. Tried to search but haven't come across much, curious about your issues because I'm considering a tablet PC for my kids.
My school requires 2in1 laptops with stylus support (and windows😖) for all engineering students. I picked up a lenovo think book 2in1 to meet the requirements and have been dualbooting manjaro on a seperate ssd as it has 2 m2 ports. I use manjaro because im used arch which I run on my gaming PC. My work laptop has had manjaro using kde plasma for a while now and I generally really like it.
When I loaded up the lenovo with manjaro/KDE it worked great as a standard laptop but whenever I tried to use the stylus or touch screen things started falling apart. Tracking was OK with the stylus but I couldn't get pressure or tilt sensing to work and the on screen keyboard was pretty terrible. I also couldn't get it to work properly with a few programs I need specifically for school. I spent about a week trying to get it all sorted but I was never able to get a configuration that worked consitintly and smoothly. After a fair bit of forum surfing the consensus I was able to glean was that KDE was behind the curve on touch/stylus support but gnome was supposedly better suited to it.
I've now been running GNOME for a couple weeks and the touch/stylus support does work much better but there are still a few hiccups. I had to install a different on screen keyboard, the one gnome comes with worked fine except for the backspace key refused to function which turns out to be a pretty big problem. My biggest complaints though are with how gnome functions in comparison to kde. The file explorer, console, text editors, menu customizations, and layouts are a lot more frustrating and clunky feeling to me. I've swapped most of the original stuff with KDE version wherever I could make them work. Overall its not too bad now, just different I guess. Personally I wont be using GNOME in the future if I can avoid it. Hopefully KDE comes up with functional touch/stylus support so I can switch back.
Personally I wont be using GNOME in the future if I can avoid it.
That's a sentiment I've had since around the mid aughts, so I get it :)
And that explains the gap, my touchscreen monitor doesn't have pressure sensitivity or a stylus, so just not an issue I've run into. I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for updates on it myself - thanks again for filling me in!
I'm not reading it as them being mad about things that are both KDE and Wayland related at the same time, but rather mad about things related to at least one or the other.
33 Comments
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 205d
Isn't GIMP explicitly a GTK app?
ray@sh.itjust.works · 118 pts · 205d
GIMP is the original GTK app. The first version of GTK was created specifically for GIMP, and it was initially named GIMP ToolKit.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 204d
What was it, the G in GTK stands for GIMP, and the G in GIMP stands for GNU, and the G in GNU stands for GNU, and...
a_person@piefed.social · 4 pts · 197d
And the G in GNU stands for GNU and GNU stand for GNU's Not Unix and the G stands for GNU...
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 197d
GNU's Not Uniplexed Information and Computing Service's Not Uniplexed Information and Computing Service's Not Uniplexed Information and Computing Service[...]'s Not Uniplexed Information and Computing Service's Not Uniplexed Information and Computing Service Image Manipulation Program Toolkit
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 196d
You know, I think if Stallman had put as much thought into the code of HURD as he did the acronym, Linus Torvalds wouldn't be where he is today.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 204d
Actually GTK is explicitly a GIMP library.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 204d
We don't much take kindly to logic in these here parts, stranger.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 21 pts · 205d
And minorly redundant to krita now.
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 204d
Gimp supports wayland, Krita doesnt. So not at all.
Also plugin support is better with gimp afaik.
TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 204d
Eldritch@piefed.world · 4 pts · 204d
Pen support etc is way better under krita. They both have pros and cons.
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 204d
Idk I tried a Wacom tablet on KDE Plasma 6.5 wayland, all fine, worked fine in GIMP 3 too with pressure sensitivity and all
Eldritch@piefed.world · 5 pts · 204d
It can work is different than being designed around.
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 203d
It is just input lol
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 203d
What’s this post supposed to mean? I’m actually confused.
edinbruh@feddit.it · 10 pts · 205d
Yeah, what's the deal with the virtual keyboard!?
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 205d
Apparently kde plasma don't have a decent working virtual keyboard for the desktop.
https://discuss.kde.org/t/kde-wayland-plasma-6-has-absolutely-no-virtual-keyboards-for-desktop/35121
At least for now. The new Plasma 6.6 may have fixed that.
Bad_Engineering@fedia.io · 15 pts · 205d
I've been forced to use gnome on my school laptop as I need tablet support and kde dropped the ball on that front. I hate it so much, but at least it works.
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 205d
6.6 will release a new keyboard, who knows. https://en.ubunlog.com/KDE-Plasma-6.6-Beta-Release-New-Features-Wayland-Login-Manager/
Bad_Engineering@fedia.io · 6 pts · 204d
I really hope so, KDE isn't perfect, but gnome is just so....weird...
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 204d
No tablet here, just a large touch monitor, but haven't had any issues. Tried to search but haven't come across much, curious about your issues because I'm considering a tablet PC for my kids.
Care to share?
Bad_Engineering@fedia.io · 2 pts · 204d
My school requires 2in1 laptops with stylus support (and windows😖) for all engineering students. I picked up a lenovo think book 2in1 to meet the requirements and have been dualbooting manjaro on a seperate ssd as it has 2 m2 ports. I use manjaro because im used arch which I run on my gaming PC. My work laptop has had manjaro using kde plasma for a while now and I generally really like it.
When I loaded up the lenovo with manjaro/KDE it worked great as a standard laptop but whenever I tried to use the stylus or touch screen things started falling apart. Tracking was OK with the stylus but I couldn't get pressure or tilt sensing to work and the on screen keyboard was pretty terrible. I also couldn't get it to work properly with a few programs I need specifically for school. I spent about a week trying to get it all sorted but I was never able to get a configuration that worked consitintly and smoothly. After a fair bit of forum surfing the consensus I was able to glean was that KDE was behind the curve on touch/stylus support but gnome was supposedly better suited to it.
I've now been running GNOME for a couple weeks and the touch/stylus support does work much better but there are still a few hiccups. I had to install a different on screen keyboard, the one gnome comes with worked fine except for the backspace key refused to function which turns out to be a pretty big problem. My biggest complaints though are with how gnome functions in comparison to kde. The file explorer, console, text editors, menu customizations, and layouts are a lot more frustrating and clunky feeling to me. I've swapped most of the original stuff with KDE version wherever I could make them work. Overall its not too bad now, just different I guess. Personally I wont be using GNOME in the future if I can avoid it. Hopefully KDE comes up with functional touch/stylus support so I can switch back.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 204d
Appreciate the write-up!
That's a sentiment I've had since around the mid aughts, so I get it :)
And that explains the gap, my touchscreen monitor doesn't have pressure sensitivity or a stylus, so just not an issue I've run into. I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for updates on it myself - thanks again for filling me in!
edinbruh@feddit.it · 4 pts · 205d
That's... Not what I meant
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 204d
You can install maliit but it will pull in the entire qt5 kf5 bloat.
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 204d
I dont get it. Krita doesnt even launch if X11 support is disabled.
HoloPengin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 204d
Krita is a KDE Community project https://krita.org/en/about/krita-foundation/
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 204d
Yes but doesnt support wayland yet. I dont get the post
HoloPengin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
I'm not reading it as them being mad about things that are both KDE and Wayland related at the same time, but rather mad about things related to at least one or the other.
Dumb post though.
hayvan@piefed.world · 5 pts · 205d
I find the virtual keyboard mostly fine, I'm annoyed with auto-rotation working only when it feels like. (I use a touch device)
boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 204d
Maliit is being replaced by plasma-keyboard which is supposed to be released with Plasma 6.6
Maliit is really abandoned, still based on Qt5
2pNza@piefed.social · 1 pts · 190d
the same with k3b