Random General Tso's fact: It's the same sauce as the sesame chicken, but the latter has sesame seeds in it and the former has crushed chili pepper paste instead. Otherwise the base is the same (i.e. mostly sugar).
This might be true for the shittiest of Chinese-American recipes. Just like OP, I don't know where you're getting your sesame chicken, but I suggest you stop going there.
Now, regarding the bases being mostly sugar, if you're talking chemically, your statement is true: starches are just chains of sugar. But if your GTC and SC only differ by crushed red, you're getting robbed.
Source: worked pantry/prep in the most popular Chinese take-out-only joint in Albany NY while in college. GTC was by far the most popular dish, averaging ~700 orders per night, pre Internet.
Granted, Chinese-American recipes are chaos. In my experience though, the best GTC recipes use whole japones chiles which are toasted in oil to make them more fragrant and a much more attractive presentation. Rice wine vinegar, garlic, ginger, and oyster sauce are the other primary notes. The balance of these notes IMO are what define the signature of the best GTC for any given restaurant, and everyone is just bringing their own spin to that mix.
Some of the comments here and some of the "Best GTC/SC Recipe EVAARRR!" that I see on the interwebz... Holy hell, y'all. I want to come cook for you, because... DAMN. There's some genuinely so-shitty-it's-hilarious-yet-tragic C-A recipes out there.
Yes, I worked in a Chinese takeout retaurant, too.
There is no "technically" about it. Your list of ingredients there quite carefully left out the entire ladle full of cane sugar. By volume it's about one third of the sauce by way of how every takeaway place I've ever seen prepares it.
Your list of ingredients there quite carefully left out the entire ladle full of cane sugar. By volume it’s about one third of the sauce by way of how every takeaway place I’ve ever seen prepares it.
0_0 Yowza... even if it's "just" a #1 ladle, that's a shit-ton of the white stuff. The place where I worked used ~1.5tbsp of white sugar per pound of chicken thigh. I... almost want to try one of these recipes you mentioned just so that I can get dessert and dinner in one container. :D
It's like tex-mex, shrimp scampi, deep dish, etc.. When a foreign cook tries to accommodate to their new home's preferences and tastes with local ingredients, and then the recipe evolves locally, distancing from its origins.
More often than not, it makes no linguistic sense: scampi are small lobsters, salsa sauce is a repetition, and deep dish is just deliciously wrong.
23 Comments
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 192d
I don't know where you're getting General Tso's chicken, but may I suggest not going there anymore? :D
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 192d
Im not mad.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 192d
How does anger fit into this?
cosmOS@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 192d
I think he means that he actually enjoys the version that he’s getting 😊
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 192d
Got like 7 tastebuds
cosmOS@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 192d
Tuscy@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 192d
What if McDonald nuggets with bbq sauce is a ultra shit version of general tso chicken?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
Americanized international food 😂
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 192d
WHAT did I tell you about eating chicken with a messy sauce in the shower?
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 192d
No cleanup bro!
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 192d
OK, Kramer!
moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 192d
Asafum@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 192d
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 192d
Random General Tso's fact: It's the same sauce as the sesame chicken, but the latter has sesame seeds in it and the former has crushed chili pepper paste instead. Otherwise the base is the same (i.e. mostly sugar).
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 192d
This might be true for the shittiest of Chinese-American recipes. Just like OP, I don't know where you're getting your sesame chicken, but I suggest you stop going there.
Now, regarding the bases being mostly sugar, if you're talking chemically, your statement is true: starches are just chains of sugar. But if your GTC and SC only differ by crushed red, you're getting robbed.
Source: worked pantry/prep in the most popular Chinese take-out-only joint in Albany NY while in college. GTC was by far the most popular dish, averaging ~700 orders per night, pre Internet.
Granted, Chinese-American recipes are chaos. In my experience though, the best GTC recipes use whole japones chiles which are toasted in oil to make them more fragrant and a much more attractive presentation. Rice wine vinegar, garlic, ginger, and oyster sauce are the other primary notes. The balance of these notes IMO are what define the signature of the best GTC for any given restaurant, and everyone is just bringing their own spin to that mix.
Some of the comments here and some of the "Best GTC/SC Recipe EVAARRR!" that I see on the interwebz... Holy hell, y'all. I want to come cook for you, because... DAMN. There's some genuinely so-shitty-it's-hilarious-yet-tragic C-A recipes out there.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 192d
Yes, I worked in a Chinese takeout retaurant, too.
There is no "technically" about it. Your list of ingredients there quite carefully left out the entire ladle full of cane sugar. By volume it's about one third of the sauce by way of how every takeaway place I've ever seen prepares it.
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 192d
0_0 Yowza... even if it's "just" a #1 ladle, that's a shit-ton of the white stuff. The place where I worked used ~1.5tbsp of white sugar per pound of chicken thigh. I... almost want to try one of these recipes you mentioned just so that I can get dessert and dinner in one container. :D
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 192d
That's basically what it is. The stuff is incredibly sweet.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 191d
There's a reason people like it. The same reason people call it sugarchicken.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 192d
Lul wut?
Fuck mcdonalds, their shit is so bad nowadays.
Go to somewhere where Asians actually live and there are actually decent Chinese restaurants.
Dupelet@piefed.social · 11 pts · 192d
As an Asian in Asia: I have questions about the pairing of 'decent Chinese restaurant' and a dish I've never seen in Asia before.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 5 pts · 192d
It's like tex-mex, shrimp scampi, deep dish, etc.. When a foreign cook tries to accommodate to their new home's preferences and tastes with local ingredients, and then the recipe evolves locally, distancing from its origins.
More often than not, it makes no linguistic sense: scampi are small lobsters, salsa sauce is a repetition, and deep dish is just deliciously wrong.
SethranKada@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 192d
You know what, fair. I always thought it looked better than it tasted.
YICHM@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
General Tso Chicken Rib -- $5