The effective confirmation by five European countries that Russia did kill opposition leader Alexei Navalny in 2024 did not surprise those familiar with the Kremlin's track record.
But the Feb. 14 statement, which blames Russia for the murder and specifies the kind of poison used, represents a new milestone in the deterioration in Russian-European relations.
Previously European countries were more reluctant to antagonize Russia. But Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine and Kremlin-linked murders and sabotage all over the continent have pushed Europe towards a harsher and more resolute approach.
"It looks like (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s penchant for killing has been recognized as outrageous," Russian political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin told the Kyiv Independent. "And now it will be impossible to restore normal relations with him. The idea that it is possible to make deals with him is becoming less and less popular in Europe."
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fonix232@fedia.io · 20 pts · 201d
About feckin time. Things should have been gloves off since 2014...
Slotos@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 201d
You spelled November 16, 2009 wrong.
fonix232@fedia.io · 2 pts · 201d
Why exactly?
apparently nothing happened in relations to Russia on that day.
Slotos@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 201d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky
His death was the moment when Russian state dropped any pretense of being civilized.
It’s also roughly the time when Russia has pivoted from “let’s trade” narrative towards “don’t encroach on our turf” threats. Prior to that there was at least an effort to put on makeup on the Europe facing ass cheek.
fonix232@fedia.io · 2 pts · 201d
Ah, I missed that part. To be fair I was only 15 at the time and not that interested in international news 😅
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 201d
I don't see how this changes anything, it's always been well documented that he was poisoned.
This is as if he got shot and years later it was revealed that the bullet that killed him was a 9mm caliber.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Yyyeah basically it means Europe will be 2% more aggressive in its sanctions, which is not saying much.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 201d
The exact same thing that the confirmation that the president of the United States is a pedo does.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 200d
So: nothing that we didn't already know.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 200d
This suggests your advice to everyone is that we should all just give up.
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 200d
You should ask about this fantasy about a guy called Milosevic (actually you can't, he killed himself). He was dictator in Serbia for a considerable number of years, but eventually they dethroned him, reasoned he was a burden to their political future, and gave him up to the international court. It took a long time for political winds to turn. That is why crimes against humanity do not expire.
That's silly. Killing even one person will produce enemies. Killing many people will produce countless enemies. Armies and money cannot be taken for granted if one keeps making enemies (also, they do not protect against assassination).
However, I do not imply certainty of Putin ever standing on trial. He could make peace and rule with an iron fist until natural death. He could be considered a burden and touch the wrong door handle without a big fuss. He could touch the wrong door handle courtesy of a foreign agency. Revenge is often quicker than justice. But there is a considerable possibility of Russians eventually removing him, eventually deciding that he's a burden, and giving him up. Hopefully he will get a nice free apartment in the Hague next to Trump.