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c/linuxphones · by Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world · 187d

Jolla Sailfish pitches a "European phone" for users wary of Google and Apple

https://www.techspot.com/news/111540-jolla-sailfish-pitches-european-phone-users-wary-google.html

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erebion@news.erebion.eu · 23 pts · 187d (7 replies)
  • it uses a downstream Android kernel
  • it does not use a mainline kernel
  • the Android kernel creates dependencies and makes it difficult to keep up to date for more than a couple years
  • their AppSuport is literally Android in a container with some proprietary parts
  • their apps are scarce as they need to be built for the OS (no Flatpak or any other support for the existing mobile Linux software)
  • the UI and some other components are proprietary

I believe those points make clear why I see more of a future in projects like Mobian, postmarketOS, Fedora Pocketblue.

naeap@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 186d (6 replies)

Sure about the Android kernel?
I was pretty convinced they use a Linux kernel and only have an Android app compatibility layer

erebion@news.erebion.eu · 1 pts · 145d (5 replies)

Yes, there's no mainline kernel support. They just use the downstream kernel from the phone vendor. This also means they cannot provide security updates for longer than the device's vendor, which in Sony's case isn't even much support at all.

naeap@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 145d (4 replies)

I was thinking about their own phones, not Sailfish for other vendors

For example their community phone or their new Jolla phone

erebion@news.erebion.eu · 2 pts · 144d (1 reply)

The C2 is just a rebranded Reeder S19 Max Pro S, a cheap Android phone from a Turkish company.

Some people even buy the phone from Turkey and flash Sailfish OS onto it themselves.

naeap@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 144d

Thanks, didn't know that :⁠-⁠\

benedikt@ruhr.social · 1 pts · 144d (1 reply)

@naeap @erebion Yes, C2 is also using #Libhybris however, there is some mainlining effort, but it does not seem to be easier than for other unlocked Android phones, see the talk or slides at https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/9KYVGM-jolla-c2/

naeap@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 144d

Hm, ok
That's sad

merde@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 187d

Priced at €649, the Jolla Phone is not intended for the mass market, and company leadership has acknowledged that it will remain a niche product.

Zephorah@discuss.online · 2 pts · 187d
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