Yes, that 40% comes from the removal of X11 support.
I don't know if any of that code even ran in a Wayland session, and makes a difference.
But what it does is take 40% load of the maintainers who can invest their time elsewhere now.
Fair, I just find that number super high, 40%. Is that official, or an estimate from you?
I think they just disabled the session since the last version of GNOME and now they removing the code completely, but you’re absolutely right, it is good that the devs can now move on from maintaining that old code to focusing exclusively on Wayland. I’m more excited about this update now, thank you!
The reason why Gnome doesn't feel at home with a mouse is because it's keyboard-centric which also works for touch gestures as a result of their convergence efforts.
I especially waited for the Parental control features to land in GNOME 50. Great to see they made it into the release. Now I don't need aditional tools to enforce bedtime for my son.
Document annotations in the Document viewer is also a nice thing. But I would rather have proper Signing support via certificates for professional use cases.
I think that this should be done on the network level by providing a DNS Server via DHCP or include filtering in your router if you are afraid of users changing the DNS Server (but maybe it's better to lock the network settings in this case).
But I see that not every User has the possibility or ability to do it this way. therefor having the option to do it in the OS is feasible for these users.
Most other circumventions require the child to know what they're doing, while a mobile hotspot is something they would naturally use when outside of the house.
I really liked the built in light editing tools, they were a bit more advanced than the ones KDE provides.
But I seem to be fine with KDE spectacle at the moment.
just personal preference, I like imgur upload because I use a social site or two that do not host any content in a cdn of their own. I've scripted my own upload in the past but it was unsatisfying
Yeah, going around with that hackaton to make it work is a real PITA. Unfortunately, that's the most enticing screen shot app in existence, in my opinion. I ended up just using the Gnome SC app and making it open satty to edit and then decide to copy or save. It does the job, requires very little tweaking, but it's certainly not flameshot.
In any case it is not surprising since GNOME is moving towards full Wayland on this update too, the project expects all devs to focus exclusively on Wayland now.
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garbage_world@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 153d
uuj8za@piefed.social · 9 pts · 152d
Dropping X11 seems huge.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 152d
petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 152d
Removing technical debts cannot be overestimated.
master_of_unlocking@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 153d
Yeah forge is what I use too and it’s definitely a little clunky. PaperWM was decent last time I tried it too (but still a little clunky)
mech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 151d
Except for removing 40% of the code base in this release.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d
Pirate@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d
Is that % real? That’s impressive. Was it the removal of X11? That should make the DE feel lighter, hopefully.
GNOME has a bunch of legacy code… it’s only of the things that has me interested in Cosmic OS. That and Rust, lol.
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d
Yes, that 40% comes from the removal of X11 support.
I don't know if any of that code even ran in a Wayland session, and makes a difference.
But what it does is take 40% load of the maintainers who can invest their time elsewhere now.
Pirate@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d
Fair, I just find that number super high, 40%. Is that official, or an estimate from you?
I think they just disabled the session since the last version of GNOME and now they removing the code completely, but you’re absolutely right, it is good that the devs can now move on from maintaining that old code to focusing exclusively on Wayland. I’m more excited about this update now, thank you!
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d
I remember reading it's 40% in an article, but now I can't find it anymore, so take it with a grain of salt.
jcruz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 152d
Mosaicwm is great, even if still on early development.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 152d
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 152d
Did you ever use Material Shell?
YetiMindtrick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
That is likely to come now that they have removed all support for X11. Apparently the legacy code was preventing properly integrating a tiling system.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 20 pts · 152d
dudu hastconfuser@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 152d
du hast mich
petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 152d
😂
hornedfiend@piefed.social · 13 pts · 152d
I can't for the life of me get used to Gnome on my desktop. I tried so many times, but I always get the feeling of using a tablet.
I like the concept, but it's simply a laptop or tablet centered DE, at best.
0t79JeIfK01RHyzo@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 152d
Do you use any extensions? I hated Gnome when I first started using Linux but now I prefer it over alternatives.
::: spoiler My extensions
:::
warmaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 152d
The reason why Gnome doesn't feel at home with a mouse is because it's keyboard-centric which also works for touch gestures as a result of their convergence efforts.
Pirate@feddit.org · 2 pts · 152d
It is a change in workflow for sure (mouse-centric > keyboard-centric), but once understood it is, I’m, much faster than the alternative.
Goingdown@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 153d
I am using Tiling Shell
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/7065/tiling-shell/
sakphul@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 151d
I especially waited for the Parental control features to land in GNOME 50. Great to see they made it into the release. Now I don't need aditional tools to enforce bedtime for my son.
Document annotations in the Document viewer is also a nice thing. But I would rather have proper Signing support via certificates for professional use cases.
FG_3479@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d
It would be nice to see web filtering as part of it. A DNS like 1.1.1.3 can easily be bypassed.
sakphul@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 151d
I think that this should be done on the network level by providing a DNS Server via DHCP or include filtering in your router if you are afraid of users changing the DNS Server (but maybe it's better to lock the network settings in this case).
But I see that not every User has the possibility or ability to do it this way. therefor having the option to do it in the OS is feasible for these users.
FG_3479@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 150d
That becomes useless as soon as the child discovers the hotspot feature on their phone.
sakphul@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 150d
As soon as the kids get smart enough to circumvent such measures, they hopefully know their way arround the Internet
FG_3479@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 150d
Most other circumventions require the child to know what they're doing, while a mobile hotspot is something they would naturally use when outside of the house.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 152d
I fucking love Gnome over any other DE. I do hate how they try to fucking block using flameshot, otherwise, best distro in the linux world.
mactan@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 152d
unfortunately flameshot uses some wlroots extensions that no DEs seem to use , I have a ton of window rules attempting to work around it on plasma
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 151d
The KDE screenshot application is super nice though, what does flameshot have that it doesn't?
NakedGardenGnome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 151d
I really liked the built in light editing tools, they were a bit more advanced than the ones KDE provides. But I seem to be fine with KDE spectacle at the moment.
mactan@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 151d
just personal preference, I like imgur upload because I use a social site or two that do not host any content in a cdn of their own. I've scripted my own upload in the past but it was unsatisfying
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 151d
Yeah, going around with that hackaton to make it work is a real PITA. Unfortunately, that's the most enticing screen shot app in existence, in my opinion. I ended up just using the Gnome SC app and making it open satty to edit and then decide to copy or save. It does the job, requires very little tweaking, but it's certainly not flameshot.
Pirate@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d
Isn’t flameshot deprecated?
In any case it is not surprising since GNOME is moving towards full Wayland on this update too, the project expects all devs to focus exclusively on Wayland now.
I’ve been very happy with Gradia for screenshots.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 148d
Oh my God, thank you so much. That looks awesome. I'll certainly take it for a spin.
As for flameshot, I'm not sure, but last I heard it was still being developed and maintained.
Agility0971@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 152d
Headless remote desktop is nice as well
0oWow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 151d
Are windows full circles now? /s
It's funny to me how enormous the radius is on window corners. It's kind of hard for me to take it seriously.
gregloscombe@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 151d
And the padding. Legit when the corner of a terminal makes the bottom line of text difficult to read, they have gone too far
LeLachs@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 151d
The Kerberos Auth for RDP sounds really nice. I cant wait to try that out
fraichu@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 152d
Oh no.
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 151d
Here I am on effectively Gnome 2 still. Love you MATE
viewports@lemmy.ml · -6 pts · 151d
Is it any good now? I stopped using or thinking much about gnome and gtk after trying 3.0 even windows was better than that trash