Netflix must refund customers for years of price hikes, Italian court rules
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/04/netflix-ordered-to-refund-subscribers-up-to-e500-for-unlawful-price-hikes/?utm_social-type=owned
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TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 157d
Sanitized link without the UTM parameter:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/04/netflix-ordered-to-refund-subscribers-up-to-e500-for-unlawful-price-hikes/
vk6flab@lemmy.radio · 41 pts · 157d
Yeah .. that's never going to happen.
Casanunda@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 157d
Wdym? Court ordered them to pay.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 157d
And they're appealing. And what's the court gonna do, fine them less than they would have to pay out?
Deestan@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 157d
Appealing doesn't get them out of paying.
Casanunda@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 157d
I'm not an Italian lawyer, but I'm pretty sure appeals can be rejected. And hopefully this one will be.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 157d
Fines can also be increased on appeal.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 157d
Hope for the best, expect the worst.
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 157d
Start an example?
Considering consumer laws are pretty good in Europe and jurisprudence tends to set example in the euro-space, it may cause other countries to do the exact same thing.
The company may appeal. It may even win. But the bad publicity hurts. And if they lose, it gets even worse, as it will have to pay what it is being demanded.
Or not pay and get fines on top of that.
krisevol@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 156d
HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 156d
What are the consequences of not paying the court ordered amounts?
Casanunda@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 156d
My educated-but-not-italian-lawyer guess is: growing fines, seizure of bank accounts and assets and eventual ban on conducting business.
Azrael@feddit.org · 38 pts · 156d
About a year old news, but same thing in Germany
Rough Translation:
There is a statutory period of limitation of 3 years as per German law though, so you can only reclaim the higher paid costs for 2022-2025.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 156d
Does this mean Netflix didnt have anything in their T&C that they could raise prices, so they couldn't raise prices?
Edit: Oh I re-read this a few times and they did have a clause. I don't understand this then. It's stupid to say a company can't raise prices, was the issue that they needed to give something like 3, 6, 9, 12 months notice instead of an immediate put up or get out situation?
sanpo@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 156d
Not sure if this is true for all EU now, but they can't raise prices on their own, period.
They have to inform you and unless you agree all they're allowed to do is cancel your service once the new pricing is in effect.
And illegal/abusive clauses in the T&C are null and void.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 156d
But they did inform?
I'm looking into this a bit further, and it seems to be so idiotic if i understand this right... because their T&C didn't say they may raise prices due to inflation, or because of increased production costs, or adding new features, it was voided. They just said they could increase prices, but a reason in the T&C was required.
Edit: And they've now since added a reason in the T&C because of this.
Edit2: Also because there was no clear way to cancel on the spot when they saw the prompt? This part seems more reasonable.
Azrael@feddit.org · 16 pts · 156d
Edit2 is the more correct one.
As per German law, a contract or a renewal of a contract requires both parties to consent.
Since Netflix only offered a "Yes I accept" button and no "I decline, please cancel my subscription" one, the Price Hike is illegal and thus void.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 156d
Do you think they would have let the no reason in the T&C pass (edit with a warning) had they offered the i decline cancel button?
grepe@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 156d
customer protection is taken seriously in germany (or any country whrere laws protect customers from companies rather than the other way around for that matter). you can't for example just send an email to your customers saying "we've made some changes to our terms and conditions" without making it possible for the customers to say "ok, I'm out". if there is no such option the customers may rightfully argue that this is simply not the product they purchased and the conpany is breaking their end of the deal.
MrSmoothPP@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 157d
Haha get owned Netflix
null@lemmy.org · 16 pts · 156d
The audacity to charge for a tier with ads.
verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 9 pts · 157d