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c/linuxmemes · by Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml · 134d

When texlive is updated… (openSUSE TW, 2029 updated packages)

I just ran my routine update script. For the fourth time today. And I’m hit with 2029 updated packages. Image is a screenshot of zypper displaying the updated packages. I had to zoom out very far. Who knew that having texlive installed would do something like this lol

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driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 40 pts · 134d (4 replies)

This is the worst screenshot I have ever seen in my life

Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 133d (1 reply)

In my defense, this is because I had to zoom out as far as alacritty would allow to get everything on screen, so the res of the text got significantly reduced. Is there a way to take lossless screenshots of a terminal emulator, though? This was the only way I could think of doing it, zoom out really far and then capture with grim

unrealMinotaur@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 132d

(Works on hyper and IDK about other compositors) You can set your resolution to be 2x your screens avtual resolution and then take a screenshot which helps a bit.

tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 134d

It might be that the pict-rs instance on lemmy.ml has size restrictions that disallows uploading a full-resolution screenshot or something.

WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 134d

Here here
Hear, hear!

Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 30 pts · 134d

otter@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 134d (5 replies)

I switched from LaTeX to Typst this year, and while I didn't do it for this reason, it's a nice side benefit

https://typst.app/

turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 134d (1 reply)

This plus compile time were my reasons for switching

maxprime@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 133d

I’ve tried several times but latex commands are so engrained in my fingers. One day. Maybe.

Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 133d

I love typst! I have also been using it for about a year now, though only for personal stuff, because the math and more advanced formatting is not quite on par with latex yet. But it's getting close and it's so much nicer to use!

eta@feddit.org · 2 pts · 133d (1 reply)

Are there some big drawbacks that one has to live with switching from LaTeX to Typst or is it generally able to be a full replacement?

otter@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 133d

It was a full replacement for me, but I was only using it for personal use.

If you need a unique and specific package, you might have trouble finding it since the LaTeX ecosystem has been around for decades longer. The other drawback would be collaboration and interacting with journals, where the people that grew up with LaTeX might be resistant to changing to something new. I'm not personally in the research side now, so I can't comment on it much further. I would assume that adoption also varies by the field of research.

skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 134d

This is why you should do a manual texlive install... unless you really need bleeding edge LaTeX features

tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 134d (1 reply)

I just ran my routine update script. For the fourth time today. And I’m hit with 2029 updated packages.

I mean, that's kinda what you sign up for if you're using a rolling release Linux distro, and I'm assuming, given the name, that tumbleweed is a rolling release?

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Yes:

https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed

The Tumbleweed distribution is a pure rolling release version of openSUSE containing the latest "stable" versions of all software instead of relying on rigid periodic release cycles. The project does this for users who want the newest stable software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE

openSUSE[5] ( /ˌoʊpənˈsuːzə/) is a free and open-source Linux distribution developed by the openSUSE Project. It is offered in two main variations: Tumbleweed, an upstream rolling release distribution, and Leap, a stable release distribution which is sourced from SUSE Linux Enterprise.[6]

I mean, sounds like they've got a non-rolling-release distro too, and that won't hit you with all the updates.

EDIT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release

Rolling release, also known as rolling update or continuous delivery, is a concept in software development of frequently delivering updates to applications.[1][2][3] This is in contrast to a standard or point release development model which uses software versions which replace the previous version.

A rolling release model is different from a staged or "staggered" rollout, in which an update is gradually made available to an increasing percentage of users for testing or bandwidth reasons.[4][5]

An example of a rolling release would be Arch Linux, where new packages and updates roll in constantly, and significant changes to the distribution may occur at any time by the developers. This is in contrast to Ubuntu Linux, which has biannual releases, with the only major changes after a release being security updates or significant bug fixes.

Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 133d

Don't worry, the update doesn't bother me in the slightest; I think it only took about five minutes anyway. I just thought it was kinda funny, the sheer volume of updates. In my seven years of daily driving Linux, I don't think I've ever seen that many updates come at once. The closest was a Arch laptop I hadn't opened for two months, but I don't even think that was over two thousand, lol

shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 132d

I just use the texlive docker image instead. It is also huge, but at least it is decoupled from system updates

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 101d

i also use opensuse tumbleweed

i dont have texlive installed

for me, updates in which plasma is updated are often 2000 packages

mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 132d

holy shit how many subpackages/libraries of texlive did you have?