Not really though? Or rather - then answer the other half. Why are flatpaks, deb, rpm, arch, etc. ALL able to update in place? But with snaps we need that sucker closed? It sucks to use like that.
They have been trying to work with the Flatpak people to make it a standard everyone could share. After half a decade of frustration I think they just gave up and decided to do it themselves.
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jdr@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 91d
Are they still trying to make snap happen?
It's not going to happen.
wilmo@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 90d
Its also for my experience the worst way to use apps.
The fact that I can't "update" my software without closing it first.
Why can I do that with all other package formats? I get it won't be the new version until I reopen the app but still. Its unnecessary friction.
Also with the prompting last I used it Firefox couldn't download anything with it enabled.
Like you ship Ubuntu with like 4 major snaps including the security center and it hasn't or hadn't worked with your shipped snaps for at least a year?
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 90d
Just wait until you find out about Ubuntu "Oops! All Snaps" Core Edition.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 90d
Asked and answered.
wilmo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 89d
Not really though? Or rather - then answer the other half. Why are flatpaks, deb, rpm, arch, etc. ALL able to update in place? But with snaps we need that sucker closed? It sucks to use like that.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 89d
Because the app isn't updated until it's restarted.
Do you think you applied that Firefox security update because you updated the flatpak? Because you haven't if you left your browser running.
wilmo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 88d
Did I explicitly state that I was aware of how this worked in my original comment? I did? Oh good.
I don't care if Firefox isn't updated until I restart it. I just don't want that terrible workflow:
Click update all. Firefox is open, therefore won't update until you close it and click update again.
Every other package manager: Click update. All apps update. When I am ready to close Firefox it'll be updated next time I use it.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 88d
Hence my "asked and answered" response. 🙄
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 87d
the question asked was "why can't snap do this thing, that every other package manager can"
stop being obtuse on purpose.
brax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 89d
The problem is that you have to break your workflow to update shit, or you have to do updates multiple times to work around the things you're doing.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 90d
Snap is already a big part of Ubuntu since years. So what do you mean by "its not going to happen"?
MrSoup@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 90d
Wasn't aware of permission prompting, really cool
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 90d
It's a good improvement. They needed this years ago (or ideally, when they first started using snaps).
lengau@midwest.social · 1 pts · 89d
They have been trying to work with the Flatpak people to make it a standard everyone could share. After half a decade of frustration I think they just gave up and decided to do it themselves.
SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 91d
Mint and Tuxedo guys, abandon the shitshow called Ubuntu
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 90d
Mint does have a Debian Edition.
SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 90d
LMDE should be the main edition.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 90d
Fully agreed.