The backlash to Billie Eilish’s vegan comments explains a lot about the American left (and everyone else). Why are American leftists so reluctant to confront the meat industry?

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/487818/billie-eilish-animal-rights-vegan-political-leftists

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kbal@fedia.io · 30 pts · 118d

a firestorm on X ensued ... it mostly came from users who seem to be on the far left of the political spectrum.

The far left of x dot com, huh. I'm sure they're gratified to know that their opinions matter to someone.

toomanypancakes@piefed.world · 12 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Many people just don't have empathy for anyone who doesn't look like them. It's a lot easier to tweet slogans and passively hate the president than it is to eat something else.

Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 112d

To eat something that wasn't someone 😕

axx@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 118d

No no no, you see, i'm against bad oppressive systems of violence, but this one is an acceptable oppressive system of violence because it's just necessary!!

JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 118d (1 reply)

People refuse to accept they may have to be inconvenienced to live in a better more sustainable society.

inari@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 118d

Something something billionaires on jets (who graciously allow me to shirk responsibility)

veganpizza69@lemmy.vg · 7 pts · 118d

on X

why are non-nazis hanging out on the nazi platform?

“no ethical consumption under capitalism,”

As usual: clowns.

The user concluded that “if you care about animals, the position to take is anti-capitalism,” without any explanation as to how the end of capitalism would also bring about the end of animal cruelty. (Capitalist countries don’t have a lock on cruel food systems — in response to the post, Vox contributor Jan Dutkiewicz pointed out how East Germany and other socialist states adopted intensive factory farming in the second half of the 20th century.)

Precisely. If anything, the part of the 1989 revolution, at least in Romania, was because the industrial CAFO system was failing to "produce" enough and the animal products were also being exported. People were super angry that they couldn't get animal products, while the (partially?) soy-based mock meats were seen as a scam. It's a big clown show.

Westerners are experiencing more of this situation now with the "grocery price inflation" going on, and instead of saying "capitalism made me do it" like before, they're going to riot or vote in fascists. The "leftists" too. Bunch of clowns.

outandinburger@ttrpg.network · 6 pts · 118d (6 replies)
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ClusterBomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 118d (3 replies)

Left is being against oppression but it stops at the plate.

Being left without being vegan is a monstruous hypocrisy, sorry not sorry.

outandinburger@ttrpg.network · 6 pts · 118d (1 reply)
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inari@piefed.zip · 16 pts · 118d

You're not wrong, I'm just not sure how that's relevant to the point previously made

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 118d
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inari@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Literally dozens!

outandinburger@ttrpg.network · 6 pts · 118d
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Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 118d (9 replies)
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ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org · 9 pts · 118d

You can be against the "meat industry", and also still eat meat.

I mean, yea of course. people do massively hypocritical shit all the time.

Alcyonaria@piefed.world · 7 pts · 118d (5 replies)

Outside of environmental culling like lionfish or invasive hogs, I don't really see any. Its not called "husbandry" for no reason

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 118d (4 replies)
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adminofoz@lemmy.cafe · 11 pts · 118d (3 replies)

Something like 99% of all animals raised on farms in the US are on factory farms. Yet somehow every other time this question comes up people never eat food from factory farms.

You could be the 1%, but odds are pretty good that you dont actually know where your meat comes from.

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 118d (2 replies)
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Nexus@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Going vegan would be easiest

Jarix@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 118d

...and the easiest way never causes problems or fails people does it?

5715@feddit.org · 5 pts · 118d

veganpizza69@lemmy.vg · 4 pts · 118d