Looks like both the feds and state law enforcement / intelligence agencies are tracking the Zizians now.
Zizians Now Considered A Terroristic Threat
https://www.wired.com/story/us-law-enforcement-warns-of-anti-tech-extremism/
https://www.wired.com/story/us-law-enforcement-warns-of-anti-tech-extremism/
Looks like both the feds and state law enforcement / intelligence agencies are tracking the Zizians now.
16 Comments
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 16 pts · 77d
And so on and so forth, a good part of the article is about how the feds are afraid that once the trial gets going basically people will think Ziz is making too much sense and anti-AI-infrastructure violence escalates.
Yud, despite his near-infinite IQ, will apparently be the last one to suspect that grassroots organized violence is an incredibly obvious short-term solution to the alleged problem he's spent most of his life beating the drum about.
And let's not forget that ridiculous AI2027 assertion that people who are faced with almost certain annihilation should not pursue extreme uncooperative actions.
lurker@awful.systems · 14 pts · 76d
Ah, that one AI2027 blog post where they tried to convince people not to commit terrorism by opening the article by talking about how man’s fate may be sealed in two years time. Incredibly smart idea.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 12 pts · 76d
It helps that most of their audience seems incapable of considering that non-market driven societal change could be possible, better spend a fuckton of philanthropy money to buy a castle in case it helps indoctrinate a John Galt type to argue AI safety on our behalf, that'll solve everything.
Soyweiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 75d
The whole title of Yuds book also isnt going to help.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 76d
they have been watching spacey odessey one too many time.
lurker@awful.systems · 11 pts · 77d
well this whole read was a reminder about how much of an AI bootlicker Trump is.
meltedcheese@c.im · 5 pts · 77d
@lurker I don’t understand what “target” means in this context. Is there a crime to be investigated? As far as I know, you can’t be prosecuted for beliefs.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 13 pts · 77d
They literally jailed a guy for making light of Charlie Kirk's bullet related mishap in social media, and a group of pro-palestine protestors winning their case after months of trials is still fresh on the news.
So you most certainly can be prosecuted.
Evinceo@awful.systems · 5 pts · 76d
Counting or not counting prosecutions that end with the defendent vindicated and almost a million dollars richer?
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 9 pts · 76d
Sure it counts, getting out of indeterminate time pre-trial holding with a payout after the state has charged you with a felony is a hell of a dice roll, compared to the alternative of not exercising free speech in the first place.
Soyweiser@awful.systems · 5 pts · 75d
Also this only works as long as the legal system isnt taken over.
gerikson@awful.systems · 7 pts · 75d
yeah not every defendant has the resources to contact the right legal help to get the detention overturned or compensated
like, say you get held without bond for 2 or 3 weeks, then released, you might lose your job or miss paying rent or any number of other real world effects, this has an obvious chilling effect on speech
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 76d
Sadly due to a large increase of crime the time until your case will go to trial has increased to ... three years
... five years
... ten years
... thirty years
... a hundred years ...
In the mean time, make yourself useful to society by working in jail to earn your keep.
meltedcheese@c.im · 2 pts · 76d
@Architeuthis That’s crazy. What’s the crime?
o7___o7@awful.systems · 5 pts · 76d
the anarchist in the audience sitting on the edge of their seat
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 4 pts · 76d
Posting memes about the killing on facebook apparently: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a-tennessee-man-was-jailed-over-his-charlie-kirk-social-media-comments-now-hes-won-a-835000-settlement
The Palestine Action stuff was in the UK, my bad.