Hungry Mouths, Part 2 - Piranha Boogaloo (The Most Misrepresented Fishy?)

Piranhas have one of the worst reputations amongst our fishy friends, but is it deserved?

Strangely enough, we may have Teddy Roosevelt to thank for these fish being unnecessarily ill-regarded.

Local folk heard the president and author was coming for a visit, so they netted a bunch of piranhas and held them for a number of days without food so they could give Roosevelt quite the show. The starved fish devoured a cow lowered in the water in mere moments! Roosevelt took this story back to America and his stories of these voracious fish spread far and wide.

Most piranha are omnivorous, eating what is available, not needing live prey. Most of the meat they eat is carrion, and they just as happily eat other things. Some species, and especially their cousins, the pachu, are either strictly or almost exclusively vegetarians.

While they have the strongest bite force of any animal (scaled, of course) if we think about it, flesh is relatively easy to bite through. But for eating tough and fiberous vegatation and unpeeled fruits, all of a sudden, sharp and strong jaws make a bit more sense.

Some fun piranha facts:

Some piranhas prefer to eat not whole fish, but just the scales of other fish! They are shiny and attractive, and covered with nutrient rich secretions of the host fish. They will charge and give the target fishy a strong whack, but other than having to grow back a few missing scales, the fish gets away just fine and the piranha gets its prize.

They stay in large groups, not for feeding frenzies, but for protection. They are far from apex predators, having many other fish, birds, crocodiles, and people that will gladly eat piranha. The larger and older fish stay near the middle of the huddle, while the young are the cannon fodder. Studies have been done on the fish stress levels by using a (fake if I'm remembering right) cormorant and examining their breathing response.

Piranha shed their teeth, but not individually like shark, they do it in sections, about a quarter of the jaw at a time.

For some more neat facts and further details, see my links above, see this Smithsonian list of 14 piranha facts, or here is the video I watched last night to inspire this post.

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anon6789@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d

anon6789@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d

anon6789@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d

Pacu have blunter or even flat teeth, no underbite like piranha, but the same powerful jaws. Two kinds of pacu:

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 3 pts · 100d (5 replies)

Great post!

I'd previously read a good bit of these facts, but am glad to have that expanded upon. For example, there are many citations & situations of locals happily swimming in piranha-rich waters, but having those Hollywood tropes in one's head, it can still be hard to overcome one's fear as a N. American.

A bit like the shark situation, as I understand it. Bites do happen, but are pretty rare. It seems we taste pretty weird to most (or all?) sharks, but then again, when an animal is starving, that's perhaps the most dangerous situation for surfers and swimmers. And that poor cow.

anon6789@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d (1 reply)

Did you like how I teamworked off your previous post with the title?! Synergy 🤣

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 3 pts · 100d

Good one!

And yeah, I like posts themed in a series, to help contrast mono-subject posts.

anon6789@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d (2 replies)

Yes, the video said around 30% of bites happened during breeding season so it's mainly a few nips of them defending their eggs.

Many of the rest are likely people that drowned or otherwise may have died in the water and were scavenged by the fish.

As you said, people there swim with them all the time.

It's funny to me it was Teddy, the famous conservationist, that got fooled about these guys, and over 100 years later we still believe that a tourist trap is the real deal. It's like a template for those Disney lemmings jumping off the cliff.

That's got to say something about the benefit of having many more sources for info these days!

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 2 pts · 100d (1 reply)

Our knowledge has expanded so exponentially since The Enlightenment that's it's both humbling and scary. IIRC plenty of earlier anthropologists were fooled by the Piltdown man, and that's just a drop in the bucket. So no 'gas face' for Teddy on this one.

anon6789@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d

Huh, I didn't read the full wiki for Piltdown Man, it was really long, but that was pretty interesting! The combo between a very exciting discovery and confirmation bias without reliable dating tools let that persist for 4 decades.

Much can be said about Teddy's international adventures, but I don't really fault him, he'd never seen these fish before, and after that demo even he may not have wanted to challenge those fish, as rough and tumble as he liked to be.

AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d (3 replies)

Is this one of those Lemmy things like how loads of people pretend Russia is just misunderstood?

If I stood in a normal river with a piranha that hadn't been recently starved, would it take a chunk out of my leg or swim past looking for some fruit?

anon6789@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d (2 replies)

I'm pretty sure Russia, whether one believes them to be the hero or the villain, have killed more people as a whole than piranhas have.

Man fills pool with 100 starved piranhas, adds blood, and jumps in [2:51]

SFW, I swear! 😁

AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d (1 reply)

Woah. You'd have to be REALLY sure you were right to get in that pool!

anon6789@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d

Most animals really avoid fighting whenever possible. They don't have doctors so even if they win, they can lose.

They're not that big of a fish, and they know they have lots of predators.