BSG is the best sci-fi TV ever made. I watched the mini series on air but then forgot about it.
Then back when it was only just out on DVD I came home I've day to my flatmate watching the episode after that one just as Adama jumped the Galactica into the atmosphere and back out again.
After I'd picked my jaw back up off the floor I said I needed to start the series again to catch up.
My flatmate simply got up, ejected the disc and put the first season back in.
Then in the middle of the hardest hitting writing in SciFi there's a ham-fisted, horribly directed episode about King Arthur coming out of Vorlon deep freeze or whatever
Edit: Sorry I am sleep deprived and read both "Ronald D. Moore" as JMS and Battlestar Galactica as Babylon 5
I think that was Babylon 5 and J Michael Straczynski. You're thinking of the repeated times when, in the middle of the hardest hitting writing in SciFi, there’s a ham-fisted, horribly conceived episode about a second-rate lounge singer coming out of a Ferengi holodeck or whatever.
King Arthur didn't come out of Vorlon Stasis, that was Jack the Ripper. Arthur was just a gunner on the human ship that started the Earth-Minbari War, with severe PTSD and some sort of disassociation disorder.
The funniest line I read about the season finale was "Why was Dev tippy toeing on the antenna array? He could just like stand there with the antenna pointed in the open air, feet on the deck of the array and the transmission would succeed just the same." It's all the little stuff like that that made this season weaker overall.
New generation just never grabbed people the same way, but at least nobody's fuckin' their dead son's best friend or doing missions in the throes of a serious hard drugs addiction. I'm still interested in how it all plays out, and only one season left, which feels about right.
I will note that it seems like understanding Star City, probably every season they eventually make, will be key to extracting full value out of the plot to FAMK S5. They may be going full Marvel with a cinematic universe.
Exactly! This season felt like they couldn’t generate tension in a meaningful way. Like the rebellion could have had more drama, the girl whose dad was crazy could have more going on, and the geopolitical conflict on earth could have been studied more.
On the whole it feels rushed. Like they had a six season run and were told they were getting five. Tops.
As I understand it, they do have one more season...
::: spoiler spoiler
which a lot of people think will end with the first interstellar ship, or even first contact. It did feel like they wanted to cram in more than their episode allotment would allow this season, and a lot seemed undercooked. Like, they barely touched on Dev's role in the automation plans, just assuming we'd infer that the crazy Mars-first guy who's basically embezzling from his publicly traded company to build more infrastrucure for colonization actually needed to learn that "the right people were already on Mars." In retrospect, I do kind of appreciate that the farm dome attack was a disaster because he couldn't imagine life happening in Happy Valley. Not a bad idea, just didn't have the breathing space it needed to land.
Then, as you say, Jarrett/Stevens was assumed to be interesting because of her family, not because she had anything really compelling to learn or do, and her arc with learning to hate Marsies and then overcoming it was almost laughably compressed. I did think the Baldwin family's stuff was okay, and I like Alex more than most people do. Also, thank God they didn't drag Ed and his age makeup through the entire season.
:::
So, I generally agree with you. They're sprinting through their plot outline to get to their end-game, and the "one season per decade" framing device is creaking under the weight of what they want to do.
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orlyowl@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 75d
I literally just watched the episode where Tigh poisons his own wife for collaboration with the Cylons. (And she takes the cup knowingly.)
I'd say that's going pretty hard for sure.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 75d
She got better.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 75d
Just like Admiral Caine.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 75d
BSG is the best sci-fi TV ever made. I watched the mini series on air but then forgot about it.
Then back when it was only just out on DVD I came home I've day to my flatmate watching the episode after that one just as Adama jumped the Galactica into the atmosphere and back out again.
After I'd picked my jaw back up off the floor I said I needed to start the series again to catch up.
My flatmate simply got up, ejected the disc and put the first season back in.
orlyowl@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 75d
I absolutely agree with that.
k48r@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 76d
Then in the middle of the hardest hitting writing in SciFi there's a ham-fisted, horribly directed episode about King Arthur coming out of Vorlon deep freeze or whatever
Edit: Sorry I am sleep deprived and read both "Ronald D. Moore" as JMS and Battlestar Galactica as Babylon 5
wjrii@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 75d
I think that was Babylon 5 and J Michael Straczynski. You're thinking of the repeated times when, in the middle of the hardest hitting writing in SciFi, there’s a ham-fisted, horribly conceived episode about a second-rate lounge singer coming out of a Ferengi holodeck or whatever.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 75d
autonomous@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 75d
I thought it had a very satisfying thump
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 75d
That’s one of my favorite episodes :(
reminiscensdeus@eviltoast.org · 5 pts · 75d
Lmao i really liked both these shows and I’m trying to remember what you’re talking about and i am drawing a blank.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 75d
B5, a late delivery from avalon.
k48r@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
S3:E13
k48r@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Sorry I am sleep deprived and read both "Ronald D. Moore" as JMS and Battlestar Galactica as Babylon 5
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 75d
You should stay up a little longer and watch some Picard episodes to the audio of some Blues Clues videos.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
King Arthur didn't come out of Vorlon Stasis, that was Jack the Ripper. Arthur was just a gunner on the human ship that started the Earth-Minbari War, with severe PTSD and some sort of disassociation disorder.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 75d
The Main Street of the Happy Valley base on For All Mankind feels a lot like the promenade on DS9
reminiscensdeus@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 75d
I was really digging that show but i got really bored in this new season.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Yeah, this latest season isn’t as good. The finale felt rushed and hand-wavey
teft@piefed.social · 5 pts · 75d
The funniest line I read about the season finale was "Why was Dev tippy toeing on the antenna array? He could just like stand there with the antenna pointed in the open air, feet on the deck of the array and the transmission would succeed just the same." It's all the little stuff like that that made this season weaker overall.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Right? It feels like they could have done more to build tension in that scene if they had another episode.
wjrii@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 75d
New generation just never grabbed people the same way, but at least nobody's fuckin' their dead son's best friend or doing missions in the throes of a serious hard drugs addiction. I'm still interested in how it all plays out, and only one season left, which feels about right.
I will note that it seems like understanding Star City, probably every season they eventually make, will be key to extracting full value out of the plot to FAMK S5. They may be going full Marvel with a cinematic universe.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
Exactly! This season felt like they couldn’t generate tension in a meaningful way. Like the rebellion could have had more drama, the girl whose dad was crazy could have more going on, and the geopolitical conflict on earth could have been studied more.
On the whole it feels rushed. Like they had a six season run and were told they were getting five. Tops.
wjrii@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 75d
As I understand it, they do have one more season...
::: spoiler spoiler which a lot of people think will end with the first interstellar ship, or even first contact. It did feel like they wanted to cram in more than their episode allotment would allow this season, and a lot seemed undercooked. Like, they barely touched on Dev's role in the automation plans, just assuming we'd infer that the crazy Mars-first guy who's basically embezzling from his publicly traded company to build more infrastrucure for colonization actually needed to learn that "the right people were already on Mars." In retrospect, I do kind of appreciate that the farm dome attack was a disaster because he couldn't imagine life happening in Happy Valley. Not a bad idea, just didn't have the breathing space it needed to land.
Then, as you say, Jarrett/Stevens was assumed to be interesting because of her family, not because she had anything really compelling to learn or do, and her arc with learning to hate Marsies and then overcoming it was almost laughably compressed. I did think the Baldwin family's stuff was okay, and I like Alex more than most people do. Also, thank God they didn't drag Ed and his age makeup through the entire season. :::
So, I generally agree with you. They're sprinting through their plot outline to get to their end-game, and the "one season per decade" framing device is creaking under the weight of what they want to do.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 75d
And then he goes and makes Alt History Space Hippie Fantasy.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 75d
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 75d
He also makes Alt Scottish History Fantasy.