Hello everyone!
After several years and thousands of miles of commuting by bike, I recently installed a mid-drive e-bike conversion kit on my gravel bike. For the most part, the experience has been absolutely fantastic. However, I'm having some pretty frustrating difficulties with the drive-train, and I've exhausted my expertise.
The bike came with Shimano Claris, which is certainly not the most robust drive-train. When I first installed the kit, the chain was skipping over the cassette pretty much any time the bike went under load. The cassette already had several thousand miles on it, so I replaced the entire drive-train (chain, cassette, and derailleur) with brand new Claris components. This worked great for about 200 miles (~4 days), but then the cassette started skipping again.
I replaced the cassette again and pretty much immediately snapped a chain. I again replaced the chain, and about 50 miles later snapped it again. I brought it to a local bike shop, that once again replaced the drive-train (this time with higher-end components) after noticing one of the cassette rings had been cracked down the middle. I brought it home, only to snap another chain within 50 miles, stranding me several miles from home.
Funnily enough the components are cheap enough that I'm still spending less than I would on gas/car maintenance, but obviously this is something I want resolve regardless.
I'm in the process of looking into more robust drive-train options. My priorities are durability and low maintenance cost/difficulty, but I don't care as much about weight/efficiency. I'm putting several times the power you'd typically put through a drive-train, so I'm not sure most of the go-to higher-end options for typical road cyclists would be sufficient.
I've seen some people discuss more exotic drive-trains like belt drives and internally geared hubs. Those sound intriguing, but also very complex to retrofit. It seems to me like there has to be some sort of drive-train with a larger/thicker cassette and chain, at the expense of having fewer gears. Perhaps something like a belt drive really is the safer option?
I'm willing to spend quite a bit on this, but I want to be confident it would actually be a reliable long term solution.
I appreciate your advice here,
6 Comments
jimonthony@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 72d
Shimano makes drivetrains designed to work with motors so I’d probably start looking there for your chainring, cassette, chain and derailleur.
cvieira@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 72d
I noticed this in my research, but it looks like these drive-trains might be specific to Shimano e-bike motors. I'm more looking for something I can retrofit generically. Do you know of any Shimano e-bike capable cassettes/derailleurs that aren't motor-specific?
FlyingWhales@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
My priorities are similar to yours, I ended up going with an internal gear hub on my mid drive. A Shimano Alfine 8, it was fairly expensive as I had to have a wheel built around it but after a thousand miles plus I don't regret it.
750w Bafang mid drive, mostly run in the mid power range but quite often loaded up with luggage.
I found this link useful: https://www.electricbike.com/mid-drive-kit-igh/
yuman@programming.dev · 2 pts · 72d
zero experience with the thing, but I'd appreciate some pictures of that setup. thanks.
cvieira@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 72d
It's nothing terribly exotic. The only real mechanical difference against a typical road bike is that the main chain-ring can spin independently of the pedals on a ratchet mechanism, which allows the little motor in front of the bottom bracket to spin the chain-ring without spinning the pedals. Everything excluding the cranks is just an off-the-shelf drive-train, and you can pedal it normally.
FedX@quokk.au · 1 pts · 53d
Unless your super concerned about weight, Shimano CUES/Linkglide is the way to go. It has revised shift ramps a lot like Sram Transmission which provides a far smoother and more consistent shift under load. I'm assuming it's a city bike, so I would say do the 9 speed U4000 groupset. If you want a larger range, the 10 speed U6000 would be great or 11 speed U6000 if your winching up ridiculous grades on an eMTB.
I have also heard rather excellent things about Microshifts newer stuff. It's a complicated tradeoff between the two lineups, Shimano will have better shift ramps and parts availability, Microfift may prove more durable and reliable in the long run. It may also be easier to source Microsfit as a home mechanic, compared to Shimano. It's really hard to say, but both are rather excellent options.