she moved to occupied land during an active war becoming a participant in the occupation. She does not show any empathy towards the people whose land she is occupying, yet you're asking us to have empathy for her because her occupation is not going as planned?
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
Only thing I could find that's relevant, but doesn't apply since she moved there on her own accord. Mind helping me find the section you are thinking of?
I don't understand what empathy you believe is justified here. Empathy for a supporter of the invaders? Empathy for a settler probably stealing a home from someone? Does that make sense to you?
She suppresses it. She's an azzhat for not feeling with Ukrainian people whose flats and houses and hospitals and schools are being bombed for four years now.
if you move to a place thatās been invaded by your country you donāt deserve peace.
even in the video she said she doesnāt want to return to mainland.
i know there are good russians who oppose the invasion, but they didnāt move to crimea
Imagine how close they could be if Russia wasn't illegally invading and trying to steal land and resources? If Russia acted like a normal fucking country instead of a corrupt shithole.
Do tell us how close we were when r*ssian propaganda was allowed for 20 years, when r*tards from sevastopol always whined how they are being mistreated, how tatars became even more of a second grade citizens on their own land. How it was 'bloodless' occupation, how everyone in crimea was r*ssian speaking, do tell. I'm all ears, it's not like here are people that actually lived in crimea for whole their lives before occupation, right?
Well, most of my family died in r*ssia, so no I don't have relatives there. (there probably are some but they aren't really relatives like third cousins)
It almost sounds like satire. Like, come on, do the next step: "Oh, this is how Ukrainians must have felt during the last years. Maybe this is inhumane." Is this so difficult?
What reason do we have to think the video is not satire? There's nothing in it but a woman speaking. I can't judge her Russian, but it would probably be called out if it was suspicious. But what positive evidence is there that this person is being truthful other than it's what everyone would like to hear from Russians in Crimes.
Yeah we cannot tell. Propaganda is done on both sides. There have been posted many many videos like this in the last days/weeks and I cannot tell if they are legit. However I am pretty sure this sentiment exists in Russia, I can imagine they must be pretty shocked that war is coming home now, after Putin promised the opposite for so long.
crimea was already settled before the russians invaded and unsettled it.
unsettlers, invaders, thieves, murderers, scoundrels, rapists, kidnappersā¦
soldiers have honor; youāre orcs, not soldiers
34 Comments
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world · 100 pts · 90d
Just think how the Ukrainians feel when your country launches missile strikes on schools, hospitals and residential buildings.
My sympathies are with the Ukrainians not the invading occupiers.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -75 pts · 90d
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · 71 pts · 90d
she moved to occupied land during an active war becoming a participant in the occupation. She does not show any empathy towards the people whose land she is occupying, yet you're asking us to have empathy for her because her occupation is not going as planned?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -58 pts · 90d
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 90d
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
Only thing I could find that's relevant, but doesn't apply since she moved there on her own accord. Mind helping me find the section you are thinking of?
Why not?
fartographer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 88d
Because that requires acknowledging the value and struggles of people outside yourself, and self-reflection sometimes makes people saaaad š¢
Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 88d
That's just an explanation of what empathy is, not an explanation as to why empathy should have no limits.
NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 90d
I don't understand what empathy you believe is justified here. Empathy for a supporter of the invaders? Empathy for a settler probably stealing a home from someone? Does that make sense to you?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -55 pts · 90d
NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 90d
Imagine, the rapist preaching empathy to his victim... You really are shameless.
ladicius@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 90d
She suppresses it. She's an azzhat for not feeling with Ukrainian people whose flats and houses and hospitals and schools are being bombed for four years now.
Piss off, ruzzia shill. You deceive noone.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 15 pts · 90d
How about empathy towards people who had theit lanf stolen. Would not empayhy meaning leaving and returning that land instead of trying to take more?
M137@lemmy.today · -3 pts · 88d
Do you really not write what you type? Because that's the only thing I can think of that would make you fuck up spelling that badly.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 1 pts · 88d
No.
Blame autocorrect for becoming garbage forcing it to be turned off.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 88d
The last person to talk like that gushed out his neck live on stage.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 90d
if you move to a place thatās been invaded by your country you donāt deserve peace.
even in the video she said she doesnāt want to return to mainland.
i know there are good russians who oppose the invasion, but they didnāt move to crimea
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -42 pts · 90d
AmyAye@nord.pub · 29 pts · 90d
Imagine how close they could be if Russia wasn't illegally invading and trying to steal land and resources? If Russia acted like a normal fucking country instead of a corrupt shithole.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -17 pts · 90d
esc@piefed.social · 11 pts · 90d
Do tell us how close we were when r*ssian propaganda was allowed for 20 years, when r*tards from sevastopol always whined how they are being mistreated, how tatars became even more of a second grade citizens on their own land. How it was 'bloodless' occupation, how everyone in crimea was r*ssian speaking, do tell. I'm all ears, it's not like here are people that actually lived in crimea for whole their lives before occupation, right?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -18 pts · 89d
esc@piefed.social · 7 pts · 89d
Well, most of my family died in r*ssia, so no I don't have relatives there. (there probably are some but they aren't really relatives like third cousins)
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 88d
fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works · 79 pts · 90d
If she's lived in Crimea for 3 years, she moved there during the "SMO," which only makes her self-pity funnier.
SacralPlexus@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 90d
āI never thought this could happen to me.ā
She moved into occupied territory during a war and thought it would be safe? Is she stupid?
ladicius@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 90d
Yes. And an despicable azzhole, too.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 89d
Anyone who moved there since 2014 from russia knew what was going on. The whole "they're just separatist" was bullshit from day 1.
lokalhorst@feddit.org · 33 pts · 90d
It almost sounds like satire. Like, come on, do the next step: "Oh, this is how Ukrainians must have felt during the last years. Maybe this is inhumane." Is this so difficult?
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 5 pts · 90d
What reason do we have to think the video is not satire? There's nothing in it but a woman speaking. I can't judge her Russian, but it would probably be called out if it was suspicious. But what positive evidence is there that this person is being truthful other than it's what everyone would like to hear from Russians in Crimes.
lokalhorst@feddit.org · 4 pts · 90d
Yeah we cannot tell. Propaganda is done on both sides. There have been posted many many videos like this in the last days/weeks and I cannot tell if they are legit. However I am pretty sure this sentiment exists in Russia, I can imagine they must be pretty shocked that war is coming home now, after Putin promised the opposite for so long.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 30 pts · 90d
It will end if you and your fucking military fuck off into the mainland and start paying for the damage you've caused, stupid twat.
Janx@piefed.social · 21 pts · 89d
Imagine your country invading another, you illegally occupy some land, and expect people to feel sorry for you because you're sad...
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 90d
Rest in piss asshole.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 90d
It ends when you leave sweetie
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 88d
Fuck you imperialist occupier! May you know no peace from now on.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 90d
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -50 pts · 90d
Settler, not an occupier
ladicius@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 90d
Oh, and the ruzzian orcs invading Ukraine are just some wanderers who enjoy the nice landscape, or what?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -37 pts · 90d
Beetschnapps@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 88d
They are āsoldiersā as much as you are āseriousāā¦
Reality is they are orcs and you are wrongā¦
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub · 19 pts · 90d
Tankie fuck
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 89d
Tomato, tomato.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -9 pts · 89d
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 88d
crimea was already settled before the russians invaded and unsettled it.
unsettlers, invaders, thieves, murderers, scoundrels, rapists, kidnappersā¦
soldiers have honor; youāre orcs, not soldiers