c/linux4noobs · by FiniteBanjo@programming.dev · 29d

Would it be possible to "downgrade" a CachyOS machine to Arch with some CachyOS packages installed but stay off their development channel?

I have a CachyOS computer at home and I really enjoy it, but I'm worried by the trend of Ubuntu and Fedora adding AI recently. I've seen the admins on the Forum admit that they DO NOT oppose AI. I'm a bit worried about the future and I think I would like to learn about options for switching to Arch.

If it's more trouble than it's worth then I acknowledge it would be preeeetttyyy eaaasy to just install Arch on a cleared off drive and move all my work over, I basically did exactly that when I left Windows, but the downside is I'm not sure how hard it will be to recreate my workflow without some of the CachyOS packages.

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A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 29d (5 replies)

I’ve seen the admins on the Forum admit that they DO NOT oppose AI.

Are those actual CachyOS devs/maintainers?

I would like to learn about options for switching to Arch

Have Arch devs/maintainers ouspokenly distanced themselves from AI?

FiniteBanjo@programming.dev · -1 pts · 29d (4 replies)

The Admin on the forums was called Azdanov, no idea their role in the organization aside from their forum privileges. LINK HERE

I would assume that adding anything unnecessary to Arch would go against its very foundations. It's sort of the barebones minimum linux OS.

Here is a statement from Arch Linux:

Arch Linux is an independently developed, x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution versatile enough to suit any role. Development focuses on simplicity, minimalism, and code elegance. Arch is installed as a minimal base system, configured by the user upon which their own ideal environment is assembled by installing only what is required or desired for their unique purposes.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 29d (3 replies)

no idea their role in the organization aside from their forum privileges.

Not all OS forum maintainers are involved in OS development itself. Often the forum's "vibe" isn't even representative for the OS.

Here is a statement from Arch Linux

Nothing about AI 🤷

FiniteBanjo@programming.dev · -2 pts · 29d (2 replies)

You don't see how your question on what gets included is answered by a statement saying almost nothing is included?

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 29d (1 reply)

No, and it doesn't say "almost nothing is included" either (that's just your interpretation of minimalism). The installation medium is bare-bones, yes, but that's not a complete ArchLinux installation.

FWIW: https://archlinux.org/packages/?q=LLM lots of relevant results.

In any case, that quote isn't an outspoken distancing from AI.

FiniteBanjo@programming.dev · -1 pts · 29d

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nous@programming.dev · 3 pts · 29d (1 reply)

It looks like there is a way to do the opposite at least. Which means it is possible to do this. The same process should work but it is a significant change. Backups would be key for such a monumental change. I would prepare things for a reinstall as well just in case things go wrong.

I’ve seen the admins on the Forum admit that they DO NOT oppose AI.

If that is the bar you have set I have some bad news for you. You will not likely find many projects where everyone involved completely opposes AI. Even Linus himself has used it and thinks it can be useful for some usecases. Are you going to abandon the Linux kernel as well? Or arbitrary apply your values to different projects?

FiniteBanjo@programming.dev · 2 pts · 29d

When other Kernels reach the point of support that Linux has, you betcha.