Ain't No Hate (Like christian "Love")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6dC2eKQBFc

A song I wrote about my parents.

I am not a professional musician, I am a broken human being.

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SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 55d

"Ever since I was a little child,

I asked my mother why we believe in god.

She told me that he loves us, with a smile...

But that answer always kind of struck me as a little odd.

Because I was a better reader than my parents.

The bible's god and their god weren't the same.

Any honest kid can see there is no defense

For the psycho who will kill you if you mispronounce his name!

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

There ain't no hate like christian "love".

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

When all you have to be is honest, LYING IS NOT LOVE.

Maybe if you ever had a real friend,

You would understand just what you took.

But jesus pleased you more than your own children,

So you sacrificed us all to the death god in your stupid book!

You never ever really learned what love is.

You sold us for your own disgusting lie.

You used VIOLENCE on your BABIES to ENFORCE it

And it ruined my whole goddam motherfucking ONLY LIFE!!!

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

There ain't no hate like christian "love".

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

When all you have to be is honest, LYING IS NOT LOVE.

I guess I'll do my best to wind this song down.

Thinking about you makes me want to scream.

So before I go, let me alert the whole town:

To never let your children close to JOHN STOWE or CHRISTINE.

Because these two are the FUCKERS who ABUSED ME-

...

Because these two are the FUCKERS who ABUSED ME.

I begged for them to stop, they told me "NO".

So if you, my friends, could all join me in cursing

Until my dying breath, the liars: JOHN AND CHRISTINE STOWE.

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

There ain't no hate like christian "love".

That ain't love...

That ain't love.

When all you have to be is honest, LYING IS NOT LOVE.

When all you have to be is patient, VIOLENCE IS NOT LOVE.

When all you have to be is GIVING, TAKING IS NOT LOVE.

When all you have to be is LOVING, HATRED IS NOT LOVE.

...and FUCK YOU. for RUINING my life."

DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 55d (1 reply)

Fuck dude, just ... fuck. I'm sorry you had to endure this, and I hope you can heal one day. Rather sooner than later, if I had to decide.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 55d

Thank you. I suspect I will be dealing with echoes of my trauma all my life. I have to remind myself that my parents were and are wrong, that I do not deserve to be hit. I have dealt with suicidal ideations all my life, my parents were hurting me before I could consciously understand anything.

The abrahamic faiths are death cults and should be opposed. What happened to me and worse is still happening to others all over the world.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 55d

Huge hugs. You've been abused and it's going to hurt for a long time. I want to say that you're not alone and many people are recovering from similar abuse. Much of life is finding the people who will make your life better. Finding your people takes time, but it's possible. I wish more people realized that your blood family is only a starting group of party members. You sometimes need to cut party members and find new ones. Family is what you choose to make of it, not what the universe has decided for you.

It hurts now, but you're still alive. They tried to ruin you forever, but recovering, growing, and living well is the best thing to do for you, and something that will hurt them to their graves. Take the high road, find new people to travel with, and don't look back. Each day is a new one with chances to be better than the last and you can do this.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2d (25 replies)

Brother, I hope you heal.

Please stop associating Christianity as a whole with the people that hurt you.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2d (24 replies)

Please use your goddam brain, fucking moron.

The bible compels people to abuse themselves and each other.

Christianity is a cancer.

There is no christ. There is no god.

Grow the fuck up. Your death cult is killing us all.

I can't heal while the knife is still in. Get your goddam hand off the handle.

I have another song, for people like you: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/fys

YouTube version, though you have to sign in due to the nature of the lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dWyYeOBkg

My life is not yours to throw away, shitbag. More real children are abused every day in the name of a god that does not exist. I'm relatively lucky. I'm still alive to talk about it.

Now stop killing us. I am not your brother. My brother was arrested for making a "christ-damn promise" to shoot up a Spurs game. Where do you reckon that came from?

Stop choosing death.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 2d (23 replies)

God is real.

Brother, watch this video and review it's contents with an open mind.

https://youtu.be/WCfbS4k1KNc

Your brother, Christopher Stowe, did what he did not because he believed in God, but because of his mental state

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (22 replies)

"Video unavailable." I'm not signed in to YouTube on my phone.

I am an atheist because I see no reason to believe the baseless claim that any god exists.

Did you watch any of my videos with an open mind? Here is one explicitly about why I don't believe in god: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgC2juc3Rx4

Non YouTube version: https://snoopsqueak.com/videos/disproving-god

Your brother, Christopher Stowe, did what he did not because he believed in God, but because of his mental state

You're so close. Connect the dots. Who ruined his mental state and why? It was our christian parents doing what the bible explicitly commands. Hitting their children before we were old enough to understand anything. Lying to us every day about god, heaven, hell, and christ.

It's a death cult. Stop defending child abuse.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 1d (14 replies)

I watched your videos but it's full of absurd takes like "Jod". God can't be created as he would rely on his creator and thus not be God.

"God would be subject to the same limitations as everyone else" ??? He isn't, he's God. Our omnipotent creator is of a different nature than us.

It works for me, I'm not signed in too

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (7 replies)

That's the special pleading fallacy. You can't define god into existence. If you can, I can define jod into existence. Play fair, people are dying for this shit.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 21h (6 replies)

It's not special pleading if it's actually special.

Do you actually think an omnipotent creator would be bound by the same constraints as us?

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 13h

Prove that it's actually special.

You can't.

You're making a deadly assertion with zero evidence.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 13h

It's not special pleading if it's actually special.

Jod is even specialer.

Do you actually think an omnipotent creator would be bound by the same constraints as us?

You're right, jod is above all. Praise jod.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d

It works for me, I'm not signed in too

Probably my VPN. Thank you for at least taking a look at what I have to say. I am angry because others have it even worse than I do, and it's completely unnecessary. Stupid, selfish people believe in magic and treat their own children like property as a direct result.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (4 replies)

Our omnipotent creator is of a different nature than us.

You believe god is all-powerful? So you must also believe he does not love us. Why else would he create suffering?

Before you try to use "free will" as an excuse, there is no free will with an omnipotent god. He could create anything any way, he knew what would happen, and he chose to give children cancer. That is psychotic.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 21h (3 replies)
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 13h

The existence of suffering absolutely disproves any god that is both loving and powerful.

If god is all-powerful, literally everything that happens is his choice, including free will and what we do with it.

I personally don't believe in free will, exactly like I don't believe in god. There is no evidence for it.

Stop defending death cults. Real people are dying for your fake god.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 1d (6 replies)

the Bible does not command the senseless beating of children

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d (4 replies)

How much child-beating do you believe is sensible?

Are you saying they should never be stoned to death in the public square? The bible says otherwise.

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Are you saying children shouldn't be hit with a rod? The bible says otherwise.

Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

And before you say something like "it's actually a shepherd's rod used to guide-" Nope, it's explicitly for striking children:

Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol.

I called my mom a bitch because she made excuses for abusing us instead of admitting it was wrong. Should I be put to death?

For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

People like you are the reason my parents are getting away with child abuse.

homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 21h (3 replies)

can I have the verses? And the old testament was fulfilled by Christ. That's why we can mix fabrics and eat shellfish

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 13h

can I have the verses?

You lack a functioning search engine? Fine, I'll do your goddam homework for you.

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

That's Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Proverbs 13:24.

Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

Proverbs 22:15.

Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol.

Proverbs 23:13.

For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

Exodus 21:17.

And the old testament was fulfilled by Christ. That's why we can mix fabrics and eat shellfish

He "fulfilled" commands to take slaves and rape them? What do you think "fulfilled" means?

If you believe Jesus is god, then you believe Jesus commanded those things. Even if he later changed his mind and/or the law, he still commanded heinous abuse. You cannot excuse that.

Also, his entire pitch is "submit completely to me or be punished for all time."

There ain't no hate like christian love.

https://youtu.be/W6dC2eKQBFc

Stop defending child abuse.

Stop defending baseless death cults.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 1d

Just sensible utter destruction of children:

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 55d (3 replies)

Have you ever tried Muslim love?

The abrahamic faiths sure are a treat for humanity. Would be way cooler if like Jainism or Sikhism was a major default religion.

DmMacniel@feddit.org · 13 pts · 55d (2 replies)

Would be way cooler if Religion as a whole would go the way of the Sabletooth Tiger.

Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 55d (1 reply)

One of the main killers is politics and I doubt we are chucking moral and ethical philosophy as well as everyone's debates about it out the window. That's to say we can get all the same genocides and torment without anyone calling upon the supernatural and unfortunately we do.

SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 55d

But we should still oppose superstition and we should correct wrong beliefs. Magical thinking makes accountability impossible.

You blame "politics," but what would politics look like if no one could lie? I suspect we would finally work together to do what's best for us all. We can't stop people from lying, but we can stop accepting faulty excuses. There is no evidence, argument, or reason for anyone to believe in any god. Only fallacies. But when people are allowed to believe whatever they want, abusers take that as far as they possibly can.