You can guess who they are talking about.
Also for those not in the know AES = "actually existing socialism" i.e. state capitalist dictatorships that are socialist in name only
Tankies on Hexbear attacking anyone but the right again
You can guess who they are talking about.
Also for those not in the know AES = "actually existing socialism" i.e. state capitalist dictatorships that are socialist in name only
23 Comments
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 18d
These people use far too much jargon. Especially liberal, nobody really seems to know what one is exactly, but they call each other and everyone they interact with one.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 28 pts · 18d
It's very intentional, it allows them to change the meanings of words on the fly, then claim that the problem is your ignorance of what they really meant.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 18d
You just don't read enough theory.
posts 100 emojis, stickers, and gifs as you can see from the gigs, I have won now.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 18 pts · 18d
To them, liberal is everyone who isn't a ML who isn't a straight up neonazi.
Rose@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 18d
I'm not so sure about that. Hexbear called me a fascist and a lib in the same thread. 😆
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 18d
So...you a pro-authoritarian?
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 8 pts · 18d
Nah, communism can exist without marxism-leninism
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 7 pts · 18d
It can but there's 99% chance that this person is ML
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 4 pts · 18d
Oh definitely! That I didn't doubt haha
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 18d
SlavaUkraini@feddit.nl · -3 pts · 18d
Still totalitarianism, which is a current that doesn’t have much differentiation from ML Stalinism.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 5 pts · 18d
Anarcho-Communism is not totalitarian friend.
Mika@piefed.ca · -2 pts · 18d
But it is based on weird assumptions. Like, "your family doesnt have hierarchies and it works, why wouldn't you run the country in the same way". Uh um did you see some families? Things can get really fucked up. And I'm not even taking about the scaling issue.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 2 pts · 18d
This sounds like you might have some misconceptions about anarchy, that's ok :)
I can recommend Peter Kropotkin's "Mutual Aid" or this quick overview: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-anarchy-101
But besides that, this comment thread was about whether communism is always authorotarian/totalitarian and I think I have shown that it is not.
Mika@piefed.ca · -2 pts · 17d
The shit I'm talking about is literally from Kropotkin's book.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 3 pts · 17d
Show me.
Edit: didn't think so.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 3 pts · 18d
How is a classless stateless society a totalitarian state? If there's a totalitarian state it isn't communist because it's a state. Not just totalitarian.
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 0 pts · 16d
Just because MLs claim they are communist, doesn't mean it's true. Or do you naively believe the DPRK to be democratic just because it is in the name?
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 7 pts · 18d
Basically, it feels like 99% of USeans think communist means ML including MLs themselves.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 7 pts · 18d
That's 100% by design from both ends. ML call themselves communist despite all the evidence to the contrary. And then they don't actually teach what communism is here. Just re assert ML claims that they somehow are as they attack them. China etc aren't any more AES in any meaningfully way than the west.
green_red_black@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 18d
"Why yes, read on Authority." -Tankie response
RidderSport@feddit.org · 1 pts · 18d
... but anti-western
TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org · 13 pts · 18d
Omg
Rose@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 18d
Communist is still the wrong word if they want people not to get the wrong idea.