Yep. I saw this budding industry getting off the ground last year and predicted they'd make a play to get involved locally in the Molly thread. My response to these companies would be the same today as it was last year. You can't be 100% certain a kid isn't getting past your systems any more than anyone else can. It's also laughable that they think they have more resources to throw at the problem than the likes of Google or Facebook.
The bill would also allow eSafety to compel documents from social media platforms and third parties when investigating suspected systemic failures to uphold the ban.
On this front I think we're covered, though I'm no lawyer. I never really finished compiling all the Molly responses, nor have I followed up with successive waves - but all the received responses were captured. We can produce these replies in court if compelled (and that's what it would take). Yes, it is possible a kid is on the instance - though I have no idea why they'd want to be. I also doubt we'll be targeted - we're not big enough to rate a headline. They'll go after someone like Whirlpool or OzBargain before they come at us.
Side note: I have accounts on both those sites, and neither has asked to verify me. Whirlpool makes sense, my account there is 20+ years old, but I was pretty late to make an OzBargain account.
I hate to imagine the colossal waste of time and money that would be involved in dragging any of this through the courts.
I was going to say minimal chance of anyone under 16 wanting to be on whirlpool, but that's probably untrue. I for sure used it as a source of info when I was that young. Can't remember if I posted at that age.
Probably grandparents and unborn children, with some dogs and cats in between. This whole thing is such a ridiculous way to hide the true intention - surveillance.
I'm yet to be forced to give any of these new identity tracking companies my personal data (I mean they ask but the workarounds are easier than finding my licence even if I didn't care). So just the usual level of internet soul selling to google, meta and the like.
I'm kind of keen to see what happens when someone with a popular site just says fuck it and actively doesn't comply after the government makes a fuss over them.
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brisk@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 25d
"Industry wants government to force more people to buy their product"
harmbugler@piefed.social · 12 pts · 25d
Just in case there’s still any misunderstanding, to the adults reading this, the age check is for you.
Dimand@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 24d
Yep. Tell us who you are and what you're doing online mate. For the kids!
Nath@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 25d
Yep. I saw this budding industry getting off the ground last year and predicted they'd make a play to get involved locally in the Molly thread. My response to these companies would be the same today as it was last year. You can't be 100% certain a kid isn't getting past your systems any more than anyone else can. It's also laughable that they think they have more resources to throw at the problem than the likes of Google or Facebook.
On this front I think we're covered, though I'm no lawyer. I never really finished compiling all the Molly responses, nor have I followed up with successive waves - but all the received responses were captured. We can produce these replies in court if compelled (and that's what it would take). Yes, it is possible a kid is on the instance - though I have no idea why they'd want to be. I also doubt we'll be targeted - we're not big enough to rate a headline. They'll go after someone like Whirlpool or OzBargain before they come at us.
Side note: I have accounts on both those sites, and neither has asked to verify me. Whirlpool makes sense, my account there is 20+ years old, but I was pretty late to make an OzBargain account.
Dimand@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 24d
Thanks for putting your neck on the line for us!
I hate to imagine the colossal waste of time and money that would be involved in dragging any of this through the courts.
I was going to say minimal chance of anyone under 16 wanting to be on whirlpool, but that's probably untrue. I for sure used it as a source of info when I was that young. Can't remember if I posted at that age.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 25d
age check firms finding trough insufficient for number of pigs ,
"the proposed information-gathering powers must be narrowed to avoid inadvertently capturing children or parents."
Sorry, who are you trying to capture then?
TheHolm@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Probably grandparents and unborn children, with some dogs and cats in between. This whole thing is such a ridiculous way to hide the true intention - surveillance.
Dimand@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 24d
I'm yet to be forced to give any of these new identity tracking companies my personal data (I mean they ask but the workarounds are easier than finding my licence even if I didn't care). So just the usual level of internet soul selling to google, meta and the like.
I'm kind of keen to see what happens when someone with a popular site just says fuck it and actively doesn't comply after the government makes a fuss over them.