At the risk of sounding like a tankie: a huge factor why none succeeded is that the west and capitalism did their best - ranging from economic warfare to the CIA murdering popular leaders in Latin America - to make them fail.
I don't disagree that modern socialism has yet to be achieved, but to claim no socialist systems have ever existed is a very settler-colonialist take. Even Marx himself knew better:
"to look beyond the Middle Ages into the primitive age of every people—and this corresponds to the socialist tendency, though these learned men [Georg Ludwig von Mauer, known for his studies of early German communal society, and Jakob Grimm, the philologist and cultural historian] have no idea they [the “primitive” communal forms] are connected with it [the socialist tendency]. And they are then surprised to find what is newest in what is oldest." source
Nope. It doesn’t matter how well your government is, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. Then the rich will eventually buy the government to even further increase their profits.
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Amnesius@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 2y
Due to the fact we didnt have any socialist system jet I would agree with this statement
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 2y
At the risk of sounding like a tankie: a huge factor why none succeeded is that the west and capitalism did their best - ranging from economic warfare to the CIA murdering popular leaders in Latin America - to make them fail.
Amnesius@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
I don't disagree
DessertStorms@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
I don't disagree that modern socialism has yet to be achieved, but to claim no socialist systems have ever existed is a very settler-colonialist take. Even Marx himself knew better:
"to look beyond the Middle Ages into the primitive age of every people—and this corresponds to the socialist tendency, though these learned men [Georg Ludwig von Mauer, known for his studies of early German communal society, and Jakob Grimm, the philologist and cultural historian] have no idea they [the “primitive” communal forms] are connected with it [the socialist tendency]. And they are then surprised to find what is newest in what is oldest." source
q47tx@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 2y
ssboomman@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
Capitalism is dogshit. I want a video lol
UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml · -1 pts · 2y
Bonus video for you my good sir!
lps2@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Capitalism is okay
UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml · -9 pts · 2y
I suggest that you watch this video
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Capitalism is great when there's proper government controls in place.
q47tx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y
Clarke311@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Cough https://youtube.com/@UshankaShow?si=0S7KbPqQFeOpAJBb. Cough
"In socialist state we are all equal some are just more equal than others". Various
ssboomman@lemm.ee · -3 pts · 2y
Nope. It doesn’t matter how well your government is, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. Then the rich will eventually buy the government to even further increase their profits.
UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml · -7 pts · 2y
I suggest that you watch this video
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
A. I never said we have proper controls in place.
B. Fuck off with your rhetoric. I live in a corporatocracy, not a democracy, dumbass.
UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml · -7 pts · 2y
I suggest you to watch this video for A
And this one for B
UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml · -8 pts · 2y
I suggest that you watch this video