Joy Division and New Order

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rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d (3 replies)

That show is so un-goth. They took a cool old story that was, in all it's various formats, about a family delighting in being themselves without concern for how weird anyone else thought they were - pretty damn goth as these things go - and turned it into just another weaksauce knockoff of that magic-school series by that awful transphobe.

Eldritch@piefed.world · 5 pts · 1d

I never really watched this new thing. Something about it just didn't hit me right. Lacking the fish out of water dynamic the family is joyously known for. In a school full of oddballs they're normal. Though I'm not gonna judge anyone who does enjoy it. It's not as bad as Rob's Munsters at least. I'll commend them on some of their music picks. Introducing a whole new generation to Luxe Interior and Poison Ivy Rorschach. I can get solidly behind that. But yeah that's it. The rest just seems to miss the mark for me. And I don't tolerate terfs and bigots even on shows I love. Graham Linehan is a bitter self sabotaging tosser himself.

IamLost@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 20h

Wife is retired goth girl (her words) and she says the same thing.

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 19h

Yeah, I'm pretty much with you. It's not particularly Addams (although their Gomez is pretty good, not Raul Julia good, but decent), not very goth, not very IDGAF.

All the same I've enjoyed it quite a lot and it beats the shit out of the vast majority of current productions (which says more about the quality of current productions and less about the particular show).

Eldritch@piefed.world · 10 pts · 1d

Love both Joy Division and new order. Friends and I used to joke that the difference between the two was one dead body. With no disrespect to ian. Because you can fucking tell the material ian touched. His lyrics were sharp brutal and eloquent. I mean compare Blue Monday to just about anything else in new orders discography. Nothing else like it. But I definitely love them both for what they are.

For what it's worth. Cold cave often gives me very minor new order but if Ian were still alive vibes. Listen to glory and tell me you don't hear it.

If words could kill. Ian would be a mass murder. And we'd still love him.

zwerg@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1d (3 replies)

I dunno, they are some pretty dark post punk tunes. Magazine's Perma Frost comes to mind.

lena@gregtech.eu · 3 pts · 1d (2 replies)

Yeah that's the joke

zwerg@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1d (1 reply)

Well, I missed that joke...

Eldritch@piefed.world · 3 pts · 1d

No crime in that. We all have our days.

TIEPilot@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1d

While I like both bands I lean to PiL as proper punk.