Global Democracy Index 2022

At least they were kind enough to point out the source

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olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml · 29 pts · 2y (2 replies)

usa vassal index

redtea@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

It's so two-faced. Imagine the nerve it takes to sit in a meeting with representatives of these 'hybrid regimes' and 'authoritarians'. At least the writers have the humility to call the US a flawed democracy (their freedom and democracy cheerleaders aren't going to like that lol; the rivalry between the limeys and yanks is still alive).

The Anglo-Europeans are lucky the rest of the world is so much more civilised and willing to be the better person in the room. If I was an official for Mexico or Turkey I'd start every meeting with a recent news story and ask for an explanation to watch my democratic counterpart squirm.

I have the feeling that this is how China is starting to respond to this shit. Glorious to see. Unfortunately, it assumes that Angleuros are capable of shame (Angloeuros? – I'm coining a new word).

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y

humility to call the US a flawed democracy

They’re Bri*ish, so they can afford a jab at their former colonies who have been pretending “their own democratic institutions succeed, whilst those of other countries fail” since the country began (Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville, p. 457)

China is starting to respond to this shit. Glorious to see.

Uncritical support for more of this

Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml · 25 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Cuba: starts a countrywide voting referendum for the entire island to decide to push LGBTQ rights further than the US and many EU countries.

Saudi Arabia: is a literal absolute monarchy

The Economist: "These are literally the same"

ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml · 11 pts · 2y

It's like a sort of heat map of liberal capitalism. The bluer the color the more aligned you are with the leading imperialist powers lol

Catfish@lemmygrad.ml · 23 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I fixed it

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 11 pts · 2y (1 reply)

That actually works surprisingly well

Catfish@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y

yeah there's some inconsistencies but it's very close lol

ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml · 21 pts · 2y

Saudi Arabia is more democratic than Laos, China, or Korea L毛.

Pili@lemmygrad.ml · 14 pts · 2y

France is somehow a full democracy, even though in the past 6 years every protest has been blasted by the police, and laws with 20% popular support have been adopted without letting the national assembly vote them.

ComradePedro@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 2y

lmao england is more "democratic" than Portugal

ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml · 9 pts · 2y

Economist intelligence unit 🤣

KiwiProle@lemmygrad.ml · 8 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Lol took into account political participation, gives Aotearoa New Zealand full democracy status. Our voter turn out is in the toilet, the select committee process and public submissions are only accessible to the bourgeoisie not the working class.

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y

No, that's where you got it mixed up, tankie, lower participation = freedom

Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Totally trustworthy institution that carried out this research. Founded by the American Government™

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 7 pts · 2y

Founded by the American Government™

This time it’s not; just The Economist proving Lenin right (for the millionth time)

Edit: I guess this is somewhat based on something by the Freedom House, which by contrast, is State Department-funded

CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Trying to figure out if they recognize the US is so bad it finally warrants as a flawed democracy by their own warped metrics, or if there's a party bias and they're calling the US flawed because they don't like how much power the other side has in their country...

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 7 pts · 2y (1 reply)

The U.S. was demoted from full to flawed in 2016 if that helps you decide.

I think they genuinely believe these rankings

CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y

Oh they do. Even funnier, I bet some of them realize the "authoritarian" countries happen to be ones not under the economic control of Europe or the US, but as soon as they show a trickle of self-awareness I bet they shut it down.

That one meme of Principal Skinner.

ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

It also gives them plausible deniability. If you pint out an inconsistency they can say that they’re “unbiased”

CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y

True. Though, considering Europe - and especially Scandinavia - is deepest blue, I wonder if the source is just European.

Actually just looked it up. Statista is German, lmao.

Syl@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 2y (5 replies)

I thought France was a flawed democracy.

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Would you mind expanding on your point here?

Edit: Found a comment by another user that expanded on this:

France is somehow a full democracy, even though in the past 6 years every protest has been blasted by the police, and laws with 20% popular support have been adopted without letting the national assembly vote [on] them.

Syl@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 2y

Thanks for searching about it, and that yes that's what i was alluring to.

olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y (2 replies)
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Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

That’s not the comment I responded to L毛

olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y

sorry, i misread on the phone

nosurprises@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 2y (5 replies)
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Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Freedom House also gets the bulk of its money from the American government, mainly from the State Department.

Source (NYT gift link)

So you’re criticizing The Economist Intelligence Unit and your solution is a literal US State Department mouthpiece?!

Something tells me you’re just upset they didn’t give the US a higher score…

nosurprises@lemm.ee · -2 pts · 2y (3 replies)
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Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y (2 replies)

It’s a reasonable interpretation of your comment. Care to explain then why you posted it then?

nosurprises@lemm.ee · -3 pts · 2y (1 reply)
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Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y

debate pervert

redtea@lemmygrad.ml · -2 pts · 2y (11 replies)

Lol they couldn't even suspend their anti-communism for long enough to put Russia at the bottom of the list. After two years of what these same people have been framing as the most evil invasion in history.

Edit: Lol at the down votes. I'd love to know what y'all think I'm saying.

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 14 pts · 2y (8 replies)

Yeah, they gave Russia its lowest score since the index began in 2006 and dropped it by almost a full point since 2021, so I’m sure it’s because of the “most evil invasion”

Edit: They themselves confirmed this

Kofu@lemmy.ml · -10 pts · 2y (7 replies)

ru**ia should be a hole in the ground.

redtea@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y

Why are you spelling Russia with zeds and then censoring them out?

toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y (5 replies)
TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

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toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y

thanks! :D

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 0 pts · 2y

There’s some bad takes here, using the r-slur, etcetera, but still a decent response to a take this bad

Kofu@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

And ru**ia wants to nuke the West. Its like their only card... yawn

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y

Source?

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I’d love to know

If you really want to know, look at the lemm.ee version of this post

redtea@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y

Nooo not like that.

coco@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Canada should be in red !!! Trudeau love Xi

Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml · 6 pts · 2y

Canada should be in red

I support Canada becoming communist, but I’m not really seeing any reason to expect that soon.

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