So? Maybe he doesn't behave like this towards black men, maybe he does. We can't tell.
What we can tell is that in this exact instance, this specific cop, was really patient. What I know about training dogs and kids is that positive affirmation works wonders. So can we just for once drop the ACAB attitude and praise this cop? Who knows, maybe getting praised will feel nice, and make the cop want it to happen again.
This is a textbook argument for just sticking this type of bonehead in the stocks overnight. Imagine the current supply of lettuces available to be launched at them!
Pillories. Stocks attach to your ankles and would let them lie down. The thing you are likely thinking of that secures the neck and wrists is a pillory.
He escaped from police custody multiple times. That particular incident was a case of mistaken identity where the cops thought he was some massively wanted ganster or something. He had a party for Hitler. Those are just some of the highlights I remember off the top of my head.
My wife is addicted to this type of video. I think most of them are skits that people act in to make a point. And they stretch it out longer than it has to be. Woman is trespassing, give her a set time (say, 60 seconds) to vacate the property. If she does so, take her information so the restaurant can bill her. She doesn't pay, they sue her in small claims court and win, plus she pays legal fees. So "buy now pay later" with more steps. She doesn't, it's criminal trespass and they're in the right to sit her in a jail overnight. And the restaurant still sends her a bill for the meal. Not rocket science. Not a cop, not a lawyer. Certainly not a rocket scientist.
My argument is we have a social agreement as a society, you see the establishment, you see the prices, you agree to dine at the restaurant and pay for your food. It's not a buy now pay later setup, no sending her a bill.
An exception can be made if she came forward and was like "I fucked up", can I come in an hour or tomorrow and pay my bill.
But her entitled ass acted like a child, then got racist and wasted so much time and energy. No sale. Pay your shit and leave, or go to jail for theft of services. Complete waste of oxygen. I've seen children and pets act better than this bullshittery.
I go out of my way to not inconvenience others, then people like this exist and make me want to kill them for being utter ass holes. Zero sympathy from me.
fully agree. i tend to be a lot harder on people who do things intentionally, even basic shit. littering, damaging property. intent matters, but yes, fuck everyone who makes someone else's life or job harder for "funsies". die in a fire. you get like one chance to clean up your act or you're done. no sympathy for this type of behavior without some sort of medical diagnosis that shows a negative disorder.
She doesn’t pay, they sue her in small claims court
That's an enormous hassle, practically speaking.
One of the reasons the Australian "What is my crime, officer?!" guy got away for so long. The crimes are so petty that they aren't worth the effort to pursue.
I don't think this was stretched out at all, he has her outside the building in cuffs within 2 minutes of engaging her. When he was getting a statement from the restaurant, they said "if she had just left when we asked her to, we wouldn't have even cared about the bill." But now she gets to sit in jail for theft, trespass, and resisting arrest.
They never told her explicitly she was trespassed and just told her she can either pay the bill and leave
If somebody asks you to leave their private property and you stay, that is trespassing. I’m not aware of the need to use the word “tresspass”. Not a lawyer.
Someone asks you to leave and says they’re calling the cops? Staying is a game of chicken you’re going to lose.
This police officer very clearly gave her the opportunity to leave, however if she left without paying the bill, he planned to arrest her for theft of services. When the restaurant owner stated he wanted to press charges (which I think includes an assault that happened prior to this video), the officer was obligated to make the arrest
and she said she’d pay but needed to use restroom first
Yeah that's not how that works. She was given many opportunities to pay. Saying you're going to pay means nothing when you've demonstrated repeatedly that you're not going to pay, especially when you were given an ultimatum by the officer to pay or be arrested
fuckin hate auditors. it's such a cringy subset of influencers. they're just as bad as sovereign citizens.
much prefer lawyer reviews of bodycam footage or just raw bodycam footage. it's a great way to learn and identify how interactions with American police are trained to go and what to expect.
I can't imagine what it's like watching this as a person of color. I couldn't even get to the end because it was so infuriating. There are still people out there that say the cops treat everyone the same and fairly.
42 Comments
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 1d
"I'm not even black and you threw me down"
What a piece of garbage.
atro_city@fedia.io · 37 pts · 1d
Her experience being black would've gone sour way more quickly.
theherk@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 1d
You think this is still optional. Fuck cops generally, but as soon as they’re engaged, you’re out of options until court. This guy was pretty patient.
SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app · 34 pts · 23h
That lady was pretty white.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 19h
So? Maybe he doesn't behave like this towards black men, maybe he does. We can't tell.
What we can tell is that in this exact instance, this specific cop, was really patient. What I know about training dogs and kids is that positive affirmation works wonders. So can we just for once drop the ACAB attitude and praise this cop? Who knows, maybe getting praised will feel nice, and make the cop want it to happen again.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 14h
bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml · 41 pts · 1d
Shit, this cop was so nice and patient.
urno@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 1d
What an utter waste of public services.
This is a textbook argument for just sticking this type of bonehead in the stocks overnight. Imagine the current supply of lettuces available to be launched at them!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 19h
Pillories. Stocks attach to your ankles and would let them lie down. The thing you are likely thinking of that secures the neck and wrists is a pillory.
lolrightythen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
I sentence you to pink eye!
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d
"Get your hand off my penis!"
Chef_Boyargee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 1d
I see you know your judo well
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 23h
Are you also waiting to receive my limp penis?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 19h
The part that still blows my mind is that video was one of his more normal encounters with law enforcement.....
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 18h
Really? Do tell! 😄
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14h
He escaped from police custody multiple times. That particular incident was a case of mistaken identity where the cops thought he was some massively wanted ganster or something. He had a party for Hitler. Those are just some of the highlights I remember off the top of my head.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 39m
This is democracy manifest!
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 1d
My wife is addicted to this type of video. I think most of them are skits that people act in to make a point. And they stretch it out longer than it has to be. Woman is trespassing, give her a set time (say, 60 seconds) to vacate the property. If she does so, take her information so the restaurant can bill her. She doesn't pay, they sue her in small claims court and win, plus she pays legal fees. So "buy now pay later" with more steps. She doesn't, it's criminal trespass and they're in the right to sit her in a jail overnight. And the restaurant still sends her a bill for the meal. Not rocket science. Not a cop, not a lawyer. Certainly not a rocket scientist.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1d
My argument is we have a social agreement as a society, you see the establishment, you see the prices, you agree to dine at the restaurant and pay for your food. It's not a buy now pay later setup, no sending her a bill.
An exception can be made if she came forward and was like "I fucked up", can I come in an hour or tomorrow and pay my bill.
But her entitled ass acted like a child, then got racist and wasted so much time and energy. No sale. Pay your shit and leave, or go to jail for theft of services. Complete waste of oxygen. I've seen children and pets act better than this bullshittery.
I go out of my way to not inconvenience others, then people like this exist and make me want to kill them for being utter ass holes. Zero sympathy from me.
And I hate cops, so that tells you something.
andyburke@fedia.io · 3 pts · 22h
1/3 people are assholes.
This is why we have so many problems.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
fully agree. i tend to be a lot harder on people who do things intentionally, even basic shit. littering, damaging property. intent matters, but yes, fuck everyone who makes someone else's life or job harder for "funsies". die in a fire. you get like one chance to clean up your act or you're done. no sympathy for this type of behavior without some sort of medical diagnosis that shows a negative disorder.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d
That's an enormous hassle, practically speaking.
One of the reasons the Australian "What is my crime, officer?!" guy got away for so long. The crimes are so petty that they aren't worth the effort to pursue.
protist@retrofed.com · 17 pts · 1d
I don't think this was stretched out at all, he has her outside the building in cuffs within 2 minutes of engaging her. When he was getting a statement from the restaurant, they said "if she had just left when we asked her to, we wouldn't have even cared about the bill." But now she gets to sit in jail for theft, trespass, and resisting arrest.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
don't forget assault.
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1d
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 23h
If somebody asks you to leave their private property and you stay, that is trespassing. I’m not aware of the need to use the word “tresspass”. Not a lawyer.
Someone asks you to leave and says they’re calling the cops? Staying is a game of chicken you’re going to lose.
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 22h
protist@retrofed.com · 6 pts · 21h
This police officer very clearly gave her the opportunity to leave, however if she left without paying the bill, he planned to arrest her for theft of services. When the restaurant owner stated he wanted to press charges (which I think includes an assault that happened prior to this video), the officer was obligated to make the arrest
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 20h
protist@retrofed.com · 4 pts · 19h
She was arrested for assault and theft, dude
protist@retrofed.com · 5 pts · 21h
Yeah that's not how that works. She was given many opportunities to pay. Saying you're going to pay means nothing when you've demonstrated repeatedly that you're not going to pay, especially when you were given an ultimatum by the officer to pay or be arrested
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
fuckin hate auditors. it's such a cringy subset of influencers. they're just as bad as sovereign citizens.
much prefer lawyer reviews of bodycam footage or just raw bodycam footage. it's a great way to learn and identify how interactions with American police are trained to go and what to expect.
rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 18h
Where can I watch more videos like this?
SacralPlexus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17h
YouTube has tons of bodycam footage from arrests etc. I’ll warn you it’s not good for mental health though.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 1d
But she's not even black! Has she been publicly identified?
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 21h
Honestly why give her the attention. These people are best forgotten.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 18h
They need to be called out and shamed. We need to start having standards as a society.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 18h
I can't imagine what it's like watching this as a person of color. I couldn't even get to the end because it was so infuriating. There are still people out there that say the cops treat everyone the same and fairly.
ickplant@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
She looks and sounds exactly like I would imagine.
Gaslov@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 23h
It's really sad to see someone at a very low point in their life.
MoonRaven@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 9h
"you haven't read me my Miranda rights"
This isn't a movie...
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 12h
Why did she not just leave? Did the cops show up in like, 2 minutes?
Stern@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 7h
massive entitlement
0ndead@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1d
ACAB
TTimo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 20m
Mental illness looks different when you have a bit of money.