I don't know what else to say. Prove me wrong? I guess?
Edit: I guess I owe a little explanation. First, let me ask this: Where do "You" end? Is it at the surface of your skin? Is that what defines what is a part of "You"? How about your hair and fingernails? How about the microbiome on your skin? Is that still a part of "You"? How about your bioelectric field?
My point is: Everything is interconnected. Information flows between things that we consider separate, merging them into a new "thing" Do you destinguish every tree in a forest as it's own thing? Or is the forest as a whole a "thing"?
This line of thinking brought me to a conclusion. The Earth is basically a living organism of its own. We are a part of it. Everything that lives on the planet is a part of the planet. And the planet is developing a consciousness. It has been for millions of years now. Ever since the first monkey with an internal monologue evolved from the primordial soup, or however else it actually happened.
Microbes living on our skin and in our guts technically have free will and are to some degree conscious. Even without a brain. So why shouldn't we consider the planet itself as conscious if basically everything that lives on it is?
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Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 9d
I think the burden of proof is on you, man. Not the other way around.
Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 8d
Sure, I can try. Fungi talk to plants. Plants talk to fungi. Fungi talk to electronics. Electronics talk with fungi. But nobody ever talked to a fungus. Or a plant. Even though they clearly are capable of communicating in various ways. That's because when we do try to read their signals, they are scared and in pain. Did you know plants can feel pain? That's an interesting factoid that may or may not sway your opinion more towards my position.
ThisUsernameKillsFascists@piefed.social · 2 pts · 5d
The sending and receiving of communicative signals is not the same as sentience or consciousness. Plants and fungi responding to chemicals and microorganisms produced by the deaths of other flora, for example, can be part of an evolved survival response without indicating that they feel fear or pain in a manner similar to many animals.
Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
I never said plants are conscious. The planet is. And fungi are DEFINITELY conscious. Fungi can see, feel, react, and transmit information. They even have moods. Although they aren't "THE" planet consciousness. It's more of a "The whole being more than the sum of its parts" situation. Individual plants and fungi and animals act more as singular neurons in a global "brain".
I'm not an expert, just an autist with a special interest in mushrooms and fungi. Check this out to learn more: https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/fungi-could-be-conscious
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8d
Kinda
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
Okay, but what if that's not how things are?
Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 8d
Counterpoint, what if this is almost exactly how things are?
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8d
But what if you only think that's how they are?
Young_Gilgamesh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d
That could be true. Although, what if it isn't?