I expect that any such proposal would be vetoed upon reaching the Security Council.
Important to remember, nobody thought the Security Council was actually a good idea. We added it because it was necessary to prevent the UN from meeting the same fate as its predecessor the League of Nations--fizzling out due to not enough big countries joining something that would limit their power.
It's not a good system, it's just better than nothing, and nothing was basically the alternative that the UN arose from. In that regard it has been very successful.
moth agrees, the system that is ignored or vetoed by member states whenever they want is better than nothing. there may not be any rules or human rights that everyone agrees to live by, but at least theater and the performative arts are flourishing!
for their next act, the UN will make these millions of dollars supposedly for fighting hunger disappear into the pockets of corporations!
I'm not sure its better than nothing. Current security council member do as the want and will not impose their own decisions on each other. They would not act together on even the minor terms, and if there's a side to pick the other is in opposition.
It's sort of crazy that a country like the UK, which hasn't been globally relevant in nearly a century, continues to hold enormous sway over it's African, South American, and Pacific peers. Then you've got the real heavyweights - the US, Russia, and China - routinely aligning on policy that only ever seem to make the planet worse.
The UN cannot reliably function as a global organization if a handful of states hold such outsized influence. Especially when these countries are engaged in military and economic predation of their neighbors.
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Carrolade@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1d
I expect that any such proposal would be vetoed upon reaching the Security Council.
Important to remember, nobody thought the Security Council was actually a good idea. We added it because it was necessary to prevent the UN from meeting the same fate as its predecessor the League of Nations--fizzling out due to not enough big countries joining something that would limit their power.
It's not a good system, it's just better than nothing, and nothing was basically the alternative that the UN arose from. In that regard it has been very successful.
moth@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 1d
moth agrees, the system that is ignored or vetoed by member states whenever they want is better than nothing. there may not be any rules or human rights that everyone agrees to live by, but at least theater and the performative arts are flourishing!
for their next act, the UN will make these millions of dollars supposedly for fighting hunger disappear into the pockets of corporations!
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I'm not sure its better than nothing. Current security council member do as the want and will not impose their own decisions on each other. They would not act together on even the minor terms, and if there's a side to pick the other is in opposition.
Carrolade@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
How many accomplishments/benefits of the UN are you aware of/can conveniently list?
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
I'm sure there's many, I'm not against the UN.
peathah@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 1d
There is one big country that disagrees most of the time.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
It's sort of crazy that a country like the UK, which hasn't been globally relevant in nearly a century, continues to hold enormous sway over it's African, South American, and Pacific peers. Then you've got the real heavyweights - the US, Russia, and China - routinely aligning on policy that only ever seem to make the planet worse.
The UN cannot reliably function as a global organization if a handful of states hold such outsized influence. Especially when these countries are engaged in military and economic predation of their neighbors.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
That moment when you find out you agree with a piece of shit.
abc@suppo.fi · 1 pts · 1d
Fricking amazing idea and also never going to happen.