Trossard has played in the LCM position in pre season and I think Arteta wants the LCM and LW to be interchangeable, so when one tucks in, the other goes out, and should the CM push forward the winger covers as a CM.
In a way. They have done well limiting chances but they are letting us settle into possession a little too often and their counter looks rather toothless.
Yeah this might be one where we snatch a late winner. Although this season's theme has been that we just get maximally punished for the tiniest of mistakes, so I would not be surprised at all if Everton stole one well against the run of play, especially with how lenient the referee is being.
Viera hasn't looked impressive until recently to be fair. Yes there were moments of brilliance, but given what we want to achieve those moments need to happen for 90 min, every game.
I'm assuming it's a confidence thing in that Viera has finally settled into the team and his role within in and is now proving he is a great player. I think Havertz will have the same issue and will need awhile to settle and grow his confidence to a point where he becomes the great player I know he is.
Nah I'm not convinced, I think Arteta is genuinely rotating here. Just based on the stuff he's said and all that, it wouldn't make any sense for it to not be just rotation here.
168 Comments
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
NEVER IN DOUBT (heart rate still recovering)
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
You smart watch congratulating you on a good workout. Haha
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Martinelli nooooo
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Always hate when they show people leaving early; if you want people to not do that then fix how the fucking train schedules line up with games
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
But they're Home fans, not like they'll have to go back to the South coast or anything
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Eh, you can be a home fan and not live immediately around there. They weren't even that early anyway.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 5 pts · 2y
Why not bring in a natural winger for Nelli? Why Trossard instead of Reiss?
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Trossard has played in the LCM position in pre season and I think Arteta wants the LCM and LW to be interchangeable, so when one tucks in, the other goes out, and should the CM push forward the winger covers as a CM.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
The reason why Raya might be playing instead of Ramsdale right there. Apparently he's better at stopping crosses.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Minute 4 and we're still 0-0. First hurdle cleared.
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Rice was worth every penny
coygsu@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
This is fitting into Dyche's plans
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
In a way. They have done well limiting chances but they are letting us settle into possession a little too often and their counter looks rather toothless.
enhancedscurry@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Yeah this might be one where we snatch a late winner. Although this season's theme has been that we just get maximally punished for the tiniest of mistakes, so I would not be surprised at all if Everton stole one well against the run of play, especially with how lenient the referee is being.
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Old Arsenal would have lost the game, but I am confident that we get the late winner especially with Jesus coming off the bench.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
God I hate playing Dyche away.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
That's why Raya is playing
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Used all of VAR magic against United.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Who's that wanker wearing a Barca kit to this game
Like who are you even supporting, it's red and blue
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
A US fan probably
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Still, at least wear just one of the colours XD or just buy one at the club shop
slumberlust@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Reminds me of Yankees fans wearing kits to the Boston games when they were playing other teams. They're just doing it for attention.
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
White ALMOST showing Saka how it's done lol.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Tbf Saka's run was better XD
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 4 pts · 2y
Zina has done very well defensively
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Raya about to go body surfing to get a clean sheet
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Vieira is such a player man
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
TDK in the mud lol
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Viera hasn't looked impressive until recently to be fair. Yes there were moments of brilliance, but given what we want to achieve those moments need to happen for 90 min, every game.
I'm assuming it's a confidence thing in that Viera has finally settled into the team and his role within in and is now proving he is a great player. I think Havertz will have the same issue and will need awhile to settle and grow his confidence to a point where he becomes the great player I know he is.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Give it a while and we'll be saying the same about Havertz
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
"No Everton manager has lost this fixture since Ronald Koeman" that really puts into perspective how much this game is a bogey
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Nice of Everton to give us another corner after Martinelli slipped.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Martinelli injured ffs
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I want to see Jesus. I think we need that extra chaos and driving things open
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Jesus for Nketiah, Smith Rowe for Vieira
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I was hoping ESR would have come on for Martinelli. We need someone who is happy to turn and run at the defense
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I take my last message back. Trossard is god, and I never once believed otherwise
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Ask and ye shall receive
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Can I have a Saka hat trick?
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Let's save that for the NLD!
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That's a Havertz hattrick lol
DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
Martinelli 😢
At least we have great squad depth now.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Kai and Tomi coming on
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Let's go and score another to crush this crowd
coygsu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Martinelli is hurt :(
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Blight Mcneil goes off
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
That's a great nickname
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
That was disappointing from DCL.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Lucky for us though
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Home fans leaving at 1-0 lol
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
The current state of being an Everton supporter.
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Oh my lord Trossard you silver haired assasin.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Trossard isn't doing well today
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Hasn't done great this season so far in general, wonder if something's up with him.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
He impressed in pre season as I recall, hopefully that wasn't just a flash in the pan?
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Was good for Belgium so I'm not too worried
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Happy to see McNeil off tbh, always a worrying player
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Ramsdale getting the Leno treatment after the international break.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Who'll get the Turner treatment dawg
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Don't think we could get a better goalkeeper unless we somehow pry Allison away from Liverpool.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Nah I'm not convinced, I think Arteta is genuinely rotating here. Just based on the stuff he's said and all that, it wouldn't make any sense for it to not be just rotation here.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
ESR would be nice to see
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
This is starting to feel like our usual bogey games
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Dycheball. Throw your bodies at it
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Saka looks like his normal self again
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Not bad from Eddie
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Everton crowd like know they're getting relegated this year.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I hope they don't but it's long overdue at this point. At least they've been bought so they won't go under.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
At least Luton came up this season to occupy the 20th slot on the table.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Declan Rice mwah
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What's that Barca shirt doing in the Everton crowd? Haha
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Wait, why is the NLD 1pm in UK but 9am in NY?
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Trossard is finally turning up
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Probably got a hairdryer at half time
enhancedscurry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Now I have a visual of Arteta with a hair dryer for a mouth, which is hilarious.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Could probably attach one to that photo from the United game lol
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
TROSSARDDDD
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Bit late haha
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I'm following along from the metro, the tunnels are a bitch :P
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
oh are you also a New Yorker lol
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Nope, but we're visiting France and they have a functioning transit system.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Fair enough XD i just associate the word metro with NY cuz every place calls it smth different lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Tomi for Zinny, Havertz for Vieira.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Just drive it to the corner flag tbh
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Ohhh Vieira.. woulda been a nice one to score but eh lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Martinelli vs Ashley Old should be fun
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Saka you filthy man what a meg haha
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Respect for the moment of silence. Too used to hecklers during them.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Feel like our 6s never communicated like that til Jorginho came, or am I crazy lol
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Ooof Rice. Not the place or time for a giveaway like that. Still worth every penny and he has been solid all game.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Every player makes mistakes but yeah that was concerning
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That oughta be a card for Mykolenko
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
0 corners for Everton so far.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Love this team
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Good chance there, Everton are so deeply parked though
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Love corners. Really love em
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
always rated set pieces
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Ode has had some wonderful flicks and beautiful passes.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Maaaaan really needed that jesus wondergoal
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Here we go. Everton corner
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Havertz and Tomi look like they're coming on
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 2 pts · 2y
Takehiro playing centrally
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Just that Zinny role but more defensive I think.
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Or maybe a CB with Gabi shifting left
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Nah in position he was in that pivot with Rice earlier, and he was at LB literally just now
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Dude is massive. Really gives us a strong presence in that part of the pitch
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
At what point do we see Mykolenko get just one card
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Everton got sloppy there. Great finish.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Good play from Rice there
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Good defending from Everton there
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Fuuuuuuck Gabi
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
This isn't like the game last year. We are in control and baring some blunders this should be a comfortable win at the end of 90.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Agreed. We look extremely comfortable. Plus they don't have DCL on the pitch which helps.
DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Some beautiful little moves so far.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That passing sequence early on between Saka Ødegaard etc was lovely.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
To the Arsenal One-Nil
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Should have been called earlier tbh
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Besides Mykolenko who should be on a card, ref's been pretty good tbh.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
That doesn't look good
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Am I crazy or does Trossard look like Lina Hurtig from afar
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Jover looks angry lol
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Needed a little trick set piece against Everton. Thank you Jovier
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
4 minutes. Hahahha. Fuck off Dyche
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Need to see Dyche's brand of hoofball in the CL
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Why not bring on Reiss ffs
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
For whom? Trossard came on as a sub and Saka's doing good
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
MARTINELLI
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I feel like that should be off tbh for Nketiah
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Yeah thought so
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
The angle is kinda shit but I trust their tools
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
That's definitely handball lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Not a pen but still handball lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Eddie has not looked as great today as he was before the break
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Not even a free kick wtf
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
When the hell is Mykolenko getting carded
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Needs one just for accumulation at this point.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Only his second goal for us somehow btw iirc
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah that's a clear yellow
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Vieira shoulda first timed that
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I know we haven't seen much from Raya but he really looks kinda small lol, Everton suck though and he does look like he can jump well
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
FIRST TIME PLEASE, EDDIE
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
4 feels about right tbh, maybe 5 or 6 though
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Awwww if there was someone on that cross
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
That was a scramble and a half.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
For some reason reminds me of that game where Xhaka went off sick to be replaced by Vieira against wolves, can't remember how we did there though
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
What was that throw in lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
What a run from White lol
coygsu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Didn't it come off an Everton player last?
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Didn't intend to play to ball would mean it doesn't count. Deflections don't make it not offside.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Trying not to scream cuz my voice is still shot lol
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
So it is a 442 from them then. Good to have confirmation.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Their 27 does drop a good bit deeper Tbf but yeah
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Watching a bit more it does seem like they are more of a 4-1-4-1
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Feel like Havertz shoulda kept that in tbh
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I get it though
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Oh we got a free kick well that's fine then
HaleEndGrad@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Since Trossard came on, I've seen Fabio closer to the touchline and him doing an underlap.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Looking good already
Gingerrific@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Just as the commentator just finished saying Everton "are in it"
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
They're still discussing the offside call on Sky... it's off lol let it rest
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Unless you think Beto played the ball imo
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Wait why's DCL got a mask
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Ok that shouldn't be a yellow
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
If that's a yellow then Mykolenko should also be on one at least
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Good clearance from Rice there
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Can we get off the touch line please XD
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
that looks even worse
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Zinny wants his goal