Fagioli admits: ‘I’ve been betting on football too’

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From a talent for the game (football) to a passion for gambling (betting), Nicolò Fagioli's step was all too short when, at the age of 22, he found himself in the middle of an investigation (much) bigger than himself: "I bet on football matches", he basically admitted when questioned by the investigators of the Turin Mobile Squad, who, coordinated by the public prosecutor Manuela Pedrotta, were (and still are) on the trail of an illegal betting ring using online platforms. In the process of sifting through this world, populated by people who are not always to be recommended, dozens of users were discovered, including the digital trail that led to the Juve midfielder.

It was late summer when the young promising player of the Bianconeri, and of the national team, received an invitation to appear for questioning as a suspect, concerning his large online bets and, it goes without saying, the hypothetical violation of the rules laid down by law 401 of 1989: those intervening 'in the sector of clandestine gambling and betting' to 'protect the fairness in the conduct of sporting events'. In this case, however, one would be talking about betting on matches, but not of one's own team. It is clear that the investigators already have several elements in hand and that, lying, would serve no purpose. Thus, Fagioli tells how things went, although it is clear that the agents are mainly targeting those behind the illegal organisation. In short, alleged criminals. Immediately afterwards, the player's lawyers - Luca Ferrari and Armando Simbari - got in touch with the Procura della Federcalcio, in Rome: Fagioli essentially 'self-disclosed', at least as far as sport is concerned. And now he is 'serene,' the lawyers go on to explain, 'and is fully focused on Juventus and the championship. Just as the Juventus club had been made aware of the fact right from the start.

Gambling is not a crime, except on illegal platforms, precisely: but a sportsman, whatever his role (athlete, coach or manager) cannot bet on the sport he plays. In this case, football. On this, Article 24 of the Code of Sports Justice is very clear: there is a ban on 'subjects of the federal system, managers, members and members of clubs belonging to the professional sector to make or accept bets, directly or indirectly, even from persons authorised to receive them, which have as their object results relating to official matches organised within the framework of the FIGC, FIFA and UEFA'.

For sporting justice, Fagioli potentially faces a maximum disqualification of up to three years. After that, youth and club expect - in case of guilt - much less. It is, in short, a delicate case, both sportingly and humanly, if it is true that Fagioli has been attracted to the game since his youth days, when - they say - the plush touch of the ball was already accompanied by poker games. An alleged 'ludopathy' that could be explained as part of the defensive line before the sporting justice. And if nothing is at risk for Juve, there could be a different matter for other FIGC members, even if in a completely hypothetical way: since, the same Article 24, speaks of an 'obligation to inform the Federal Prosecutor's Office' if they become aware that clubs or other FIGC members are engaged in betting. Because once the news came out yesterday, it seems that almost everyone in the world of football knew about Fagioli's demon.

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64 Comments

FenixdeGoma@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Is that worse than Sean Bean?

harpsabu@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I always laugh as well when my translate changes Bastonis name to sticks. And I think it translates barellas as something funny too

MERTENS_GOAT@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Probably analysing his creams currently

olaf901@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

middle east same level as betting and fake crypto , get of your high horse lol

siriBackInWakanda@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

No company from Saudi, UAE, Qatar etc should be allowed to sponsor. Of course not all middle East countries have horrible human rights issues.

CowboysfromLydia@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

whats the criminal law that punishes this? lol

at best is a civil offense, and i doubt its even that. The owners of the illegal site would get jail time, not the betters.

TheItalianStallion64@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

what is happening

ShameTimes3@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Crazy time 🔛🔝

a34fsdb@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Based

siriBackInWakanda@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Betting company and those sponsors are there forever. All the clubs care about money only which seems correct because that's what business is for. No moral obligation.

jjw1998@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I’m maybe in the minority here, but if you’re a gambling addict betting on football but not matches involving your own team I’m not sure why this is something which requires punishment rather than support

Pleasant_Skill2956@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

The person who launched the scoop on Fagioli a month ago said that another Italian national team player involved in a similar situation will be announced today at 6pm. He said that he is a much more important player than Fagioli and that he now plays abroad, apparently the player is probably Bonucci

V-TriggerMachine@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

National team breaks hits hard for Juventus

kl08pokemon@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yeah it would probably have to come from EU legislation. Brexit complicates things of course

siriBackInWakanda@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

It is difficult to agree on that. Some clubs may go bankrupt. And you will have limited sponsors. And where you draw the line? Is alcoholic beverages or cola good to market? Is EA sports good sponsor, as their in game purchase(micro transaction) makes people behave like that they do during betting. That's why it was banned in Belgium I guess.

TinyMaintenance@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

While I agree, rules are rules. If you know the rules, break them, you can’t then say ‘well; rules are stupid, so I break them’.

nicefellow_@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Yup, last name of half of New Jersey 😂

they-act-like-madari@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Did he bet on his own games tho?

cPa3k@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

What a moron, if you are addicted to gambling just bet on any other sport, or play Book of Ra like the rest of us morons

WW_Jones@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I'm obviously biased but I don't know what good it would do to hit him with a brutal punishment (some say 3 years which would effectively destroy his career), especially if he's a gambling addict. He seems to need help more than isolation.

thrider@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

one could say, he spilled the beans

(fagioli means beans in italian)

YoungBeautiful_C@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Hope he can get all the help he needs regardless of how this investigation will turn out. (Gambling) addiction is a serious matter and a disease that destroys lives if not taken seriously

decadentEcchi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

What the fuck?

Ligma_lemur@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Juventus be like: don't worry us too!

Thraff1c@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

One word: deterrence

SarahAlicia@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Why not just bet on a different sport? Go buy a race horse

harpsabu@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Why what's his in English

JuventusFootballClub@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Plot twist: he bet on his own disqualification then turned himself in

STFUco@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Sigh… Here we go again

matthieuC@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Counter argument: $

jjw1998@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I’m maybe in the minority here, but if you’re a gambling addict betting on football but not matches involving your own team I’m not sure why this is something which requires punishment rather than support

bughidudi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

The Italian national team has

  • Bastoni > Alex Sticks
  • Barella > Nick Stretcher
  • Gatti > Fred Cats
  • Fagioli > Nick Beans
  • Colombo > Lawrence Dove
  • Casale > Nick Hamlet (or Nick Countryhouse)
  • Zappacosta > David HoeCoast
  • Bove > Edward Ox
  • Mancini > Johnluke Lefties (as in left handed)
  • Mandragore > Roland Mandrake
  • Bonaventura > Jack Goodchance
  • Acerbi > Frank Ripe
  • Calafiori > Richard Lowerflowers (lower intended as a verb)

And we have coaches like

  • Allegri > Maximilian Merry (or cheerful)
  • Conte > Antony Duke
  • Pioli > Stephen Pegs
bughidudi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

My bad, he is indeed Count. We also have Baroni coaching Verona which means Barons

Visazo@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Best is still Bobby English :)

YoungBeautiful_C@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Hope he can get all the help he needs regardless of how this investigation will turn out. (Gambling) addiction is a serious matter and a disease that destroys lives if not taken seriously

Driving_Seat@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Different leagues, different penalties

WW_Jones@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I'm not saying no punishment, just not something that will destroy his life

bughidudi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Added!

bash011@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Hopefully with the number of top level footballers gambling they'll finally stop playing gambling ads before and after games....

Of course that won't happen though

kermvv@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

You can use someone else to bet for you

siriBackInWakanda@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Like it stopped clubs from operating or fans to stop supporting the club. Actually the club generated more revenue after that and became more successful.

Backseat_Bouhafsi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

U only hear about those who didn't get deterred by the strict punishment. There might be many who wanted to, but didn't bet bcos of the risk.

mrgonzalez@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Wayne Bridge would have failed

Pleasant_Skill2956@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

The person who launched the scoop on Fagioli a month ago said that another Italian national team player involved in a similar situation will be announced today at 6pm. He said that he is a much more important player than Fagioli and that he now plays abroad, apparently the player is probably Bonucci

MaxParedes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Nice job mods :)

kermvv@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Don’t play anything and you’ll be good i swear

siriBackInWakanda@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

It is difficult to agree on that. Some clubs may go bankrupt. And you will have limited sponsors. And where you draw the line? Is alcoholic beverages or cola good to market? Is EA sports good sponsor, as their in game purchase(micro transaction) makes people behave like that they do during betting. That's why it was banned in Belgium I guess.

sca34@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

You can bet on that!

CircleTheFire@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Nick Beans is the name of a host/presenter for a television show that is the equivalent of MTV Cribs for chavs.

midniteauth0r@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

I’ve only started learning Italian but I believe this man’s name is Nicolò Beans

Driving_Seat@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

It’s one of the worst things. Not the worst

yellow__cat@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Well the English FA just set a precedent 6 months ago with Ivan Toney. His ban was reduced from 15 to 8 months on the account of pleading guilty and admitting to a gambling addiction. Keep in mind Toney had been betting for years and was even betting on his own team to lose matches.

CowboysfromLydia@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y (4 replies)

It doesn't have to be for his own good, this is not criminal law.

Its a punishment for having broken the code of conduct of his profession. He doesn't go to jail lol.

jersey-city-park@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

It is criminal law because he used illegal gambling platforms

sca34@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y (2 replies)

You don't understand, he plays for juve. He deserves a prize for his bravery.

WhyAlwaysMe1991@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Your fans really are insufferable

sca34@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

You can bet on that!

zizou00@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Well good news, he'll have a lot more time now to seek help. I get what you mean, it might be beneficial to not throw his life into disarray, but maybe it will remove him from some of the aspects that enabled, encouraged or exacerbated his habits. Players experience a lot of pressure whilst in the constant cycle of training, travelling and playing and may use gambling as a form of stress relief. If you're constantly in that cycle, there's going to be very little time to find the help and commit to it. Now he'll have the opportunity to do that and put measures in place to help safeguard him from it in the future.

He's admitted his issue, which is a very big first step to take, especially with the repercussions relating to his employment. He's young enough for this to not completely derail his career.

CowboysfromLydia@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

leggi l’art 718 del codice penale, che è quello che cita il tuo link senza ovviamente averlo capito, come fanno spesso sti giornalisti clickbait, e noterai immediatamente che fagioli non ci rientra. Infatti, è punibile penalmente il semplice giocatore solo se colto in flagrante in caso di gioco dal vivo in un posto pubblico o circolo privato. Uno a casa propria su internet è escluso.

furlongxfortnight@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Facundo Good Evening

Good Night

bash011@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

Hopefully with the number of top level footballers gambling they'll finally stop playing gambling ads before and after games....

Of course that won't happen though

kl08pokemon@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

They managed to get rid of tobacco sponsorships in F1 (mission winnow I know) despite the ludicrous amounts the teams were paid. Hopefully they can do the same with gambling in football

LookAtForever@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

He should confess his sins to (the) Chiesa.

(Chiesa means Church)

bughidudi@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y

He's a shit person who should rot in jail, but his sources are usually quiet reliable

How he obtains and uses that information to extort money from celebrities is a completely different story