Post Match Thread: Spain 2-0 Scotland | European Championship Qualifying

Afaik the on screen graphic is from the producer which if Dale Johnson's guess is correct, then they would have gotten the wrong impression as well.

What's a fan of the 16th best team in Holland doing in here?

He's to the side of the keeper?

Spanish fans (7th generation Americans) need to watch Hibs.

Nobody cares about rugby in Spain but it’s a big deal in Scotland, since it’s one of the 2 sports you’re decent at. We have tons of success in basketball, tennis, waterpolo, handball, football, etc that we decided to suck at something to make it more interesting for the others

yeah that does kind of make sense actually. I didn't know that

More Scottish salt here than in a Glaswegian chippy

If Scotland got a point that’s one qualification place gone and one less chance for Norway to qualify.

Celebrating injuries, cheating to win matches, accusing others of anti-football. Definitely East Portuguese.

Referee gets called over to VAR too look at a foul. Gives the foul. UEFA 10 minutes come out and say the decision was offside but refs don't go over to check offsides.

Genuinely making it up to cover their arses cause they employ a bunch of incompetent cunts

Aww, come on when he pushes opposing players in the back off the pitch against the stands you lot cheer.

It was disallowed for offside not for a foul! 100% correct decision and anyone with two eyes will agree

It's unbelievable how this forum can just make up narratives and run with them lol

What movements? The keeper didn’t even try to go for it?

More VAR fucking up what doesn't need to be fucked up

Waiting for the Scottish McTears, don't think we have forgotten about the previous match thread

First of all, it's hilarious to see r/soccer once again getting their knickers in a twist over a perfectly correct refereeing decision. The Scotland player was offside and clearly interfering with Unai Simon. That's why the goal was disallowed not for a foul..

Anyways, Spain were clearly the better side and if Ferran scores his early sitter than it probably would have ended 4-0 or something. Scotland showed great fighting spirit and threw their bodies on the line but no one can deny that they were outplayed for most of the match

Spain has now won 25 home matches in a row in Euro qualifiers. More than any other side in history

you dont need to search by controversial in this post

/u/MarcoRuss shared both Spanish goal replays, but unfortunately missed the moment of the match. More crimes against Scotland swept conveniently under the rug.

I'll ask if I ever go to Ibiza.

This ref did not. This ref disallowed the goal for a foul. Why did he do that?

Why would they have to pay the referee?

Its clearly being done as a Uefa directive.

And its going to kill football. One of the stand out attractions of the sport is how the little guy has a genuine shot in almost every game. This is the complete opposite of most team sports which will pretty much always go to form.

Wtf what are you doing to me, why are we being so wholesome right now???

Honestly idk how I got to this point 😂

Robbed. Sheer corruption from the referee.

Spanish stans pretending otherwise because they are still bitter about being skelped months ago.

If I had a penny for every time a Spanish team benefited from a dodgy referee performance I would have several pennies

ya que somos el unico pais q nos hacen creer q ser patriotas es algo malo lo dire alto y claro

VIVA ESPAÑA

Es desternillante lo picados que están cuando ellos mismos hacen lo mismo, mentalidad penosa de persona pequeña pero que risas.

Absolutely shocking refereeing performance. Indefensibly biased.

It is since interference is not an objective decision by VAR but a subjective call from the ref. See Dale Johnson below:

https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1712568809444298822

Campeones del rocabol a lomos de tiranosaurio.

scotland i love u

The poor little babies of Scotland can't do nothing but complain when they lose. Where is the fun jokes now, my english fellows?

Or do you need permission from the queen/king of England to joke?

The referee checked for a foul and signalled for a foul.

Anyone that thinks that goal was reviews and overturned for an offside is a fucking moron. Refs don’t go to the monitor for offside and he also gave the free kick and not offside signal.

I now understand why people hate VAR. After the Celtic game last week and now this, I’m not sure if I will ever celebrate a goal again.

WTF is going on in this thread?! It’s horrendous

What is a Svot and what is a Teddit

couldn't even do it wi out the ref in their back pocket

an absolutely fantastic response that nobody could have come up with except for you. i'll remember this one forever, do you mind if i use it on other people?

But its still offside ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

He was offside and would have been a robbery if the goal stood.

i don't know if you're saying it wasn't fixed or if you're saying i should be noticing fixing more often

Yeah calling us East Portugal like we somehow have beef with Portugal? Portugal is a cool country.

Dios nos vio jugar y por ser nuestro día nos echó una mano

Are there really England fans siding with Scotland against Spain?

They are straight up lying lol, I get feelings are running high but imagine making shit up just to force a false narrative

Offside, ever learnt the rules?

I was talking about international football. But even with Celtic, any win we can get in Europe is special. Can't imagine what it's like to be a Barcelona or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich supporter. Domestic trophies are a formality and not that exciting unless it's a tight race against our rivals.

Aye, we're a relative micronation in comparison but hold the most patents through invention and science, you watched tonight's game on something we invented.

Use invented naps

Fuck off and siesta

The fact they changed the decision for the disallowed goal is wild. It went from being a foul to offside. But why would the ref go to the monitor to review an offside???? Absolutely bizarre officiating, even if it was correct they really fucked it

It was offside though. Regardless of the call the ref made on field it was still offside 😂

Well done, East Portugal. Now run along and secure us our Euros place on Sunday, whilst we fuck about in France

The rules are just a little confusing. At the end of the interference/impeding rule it says to call it as a foul. So it's both offside and a foul.

if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent’s progress (e.g. blocks the opponent), the offence should be penalised under Law 12

Spain deserved to win, scotland did nothing during the whole match, mctominay goal is, in my opinion, offside, however, i can understand why scottish fans are so mad about It, nevertheless, i think that scotland is going to qualify for the euros.

Morata do the refs treat you differently when you play for Spain?

Look at the positions

Ugly football by Scotland as usual.

See you in the euros, boys. If you can stop crying, of course.

Greater Catalonia getting the refs help with that win.

I can deal with losing but that is the worst VAR/refereeing decision I have ever seen. Absolute fucking robbery.

Even if we agree that he was offside (and I genuinely didn't see if he was or not from the briefest of replays once UEFA made their minds up 5 minutes later that it was offside) - the ref signalled for a foul, so mechanically the goal was wrongly disallowed.

In that it was disallowed in an incorrect way. Which is pretty piss poor officiating.

He got injured in the beginning of October

Haven’t watched a game that corrupt since South Korea in 2002.

It's genuinely enjoyable watching the Spaniards in thay thread get so unbelievably rattled, all over a wee diddy team who, until recently, hadn't been in a tournament since the last millennium.

And all this just for Scotland still to be sitting at the top of the group, lol

Since when is standing infront a GK in offside position not interfering with play?

If at the time the referee awards it due to offside interference ....then why does he wave for a direct free kick (foul) and not an indirect free kick (offside) ?

Celebrate your ignorance

East Portugal: Hilarious joke

Northern England: Shite patter

Okay

Ah yes, when Chiellini earned a free-kick for doing a Rhyno-style gore on our full-back. Takes me back.

I thought Gavi had discomfort a couple of days ago, why did he end up playing the full 90 😅

Celebrating injuries is freak behaviour.

So dramatic 😭😭

I don't know, I'm pretty good at sitting on my arse and watching TV 😊

Which also didn’t actually happen.

Y viva España joder

De la Funte playing Gavi into the ground man, 2 days ago he left a training session with discomfort and now plays another full 90

It wasn't, it is a combination of people a) being very emotional after a major decision b) people not knowing the rules and c) a signal mistake from the ref, even though I am not sure about that since I didn't see the refs arm after the decision was made.

Spain is way too busy sucking ass at speaking foreign languages, having the 2nd worst level of English in Europe only behind Hungary, but we’re coming for you you Puskas boys 🤬🤬

Dodgy ref

Can you explain how both the VAR and the ref indicated it was a foul, despite apparently having a full discussion between them that it was offside?

Spain invent something challenge: impossible.

We know everything about you.

Who does that make the moron?

Genuinely look at the pace it's going, where it ends up in the net and tell me that keeper is saving that? Delusional.

Hahahaha leave me alone dude

The problem is uefa told us it was for a foul, then changed their mind to offside.

Even if he was offside it’s borderline at best. The keeper made zero effort to get the ball. He wasn’t being hindered at all.

Serdar Gozobukyuk was obviously happy enough with UEFA and the RFEF’s brown envelopes.

Firstly I’m Irish, secondly Scotland are better than Wales

Time will tell mate, you won’t even get out of the groups stage if you get to the Euros, the same way you embarrass yourselves every single tournament you play, be it football be it rugby, it’s Scotland lads

I need a bit more Scottish salt to put it on their self inflicted wounds.

Again.

There's no whining like the British whining.

You had 24% percent possession and zero shots at goal close to the 70th minute but you have the nerve to claim you deserved something. How about you play some fuckin football first.

Relevant at being 2nd.

South France can only win by buying referees

I can't believe all the Al-Andalus fans are this worked up about beating Scotland lol. You'd think they just beat Argentina. Behaving like sore losers even after winning a game. How embarassing.

How does that get ruled offside in the end? Refs don't get called to watch the replay for offsides?

And we like Portugal but that didn't stop you frim making East Portugal jokes for 180 minutes innit

If that’s true it’s harder to plausibly explain what happened. 🤷‍♂️

McTominays goal went for a VAR check... ref gave the goal... then a few seconds later took it back... wtf

You know, in football, you get some calls and you lose others.

Funny how the Spanish at national and club level always come out on top at home though.

Lol, people actually complaining that an obvious offside goal was dissallowed. Sad. :(

he didn't signal for offside when he gave the freekick after going to the screen

Morata is him

Erm, this literally does the opposite?

Norway's best chance of going through was Spain losing tonight imo

Tbh they have to beat Spain and Scotland in both situations anyway

Beat them, injured robbo and absolutely got under their skin with the disallowed goal.

Couldn't have asked for a better thing to happen in our national day, today was truly scripted.

No one needs to watch Hibs, fuck sake. Have some mercy

Absolutely ridiculous decision to disallowed the goal from a fair cross into the goal which one, the offside was unfair because he let the ball go all the way and wasn't interfering the shot that came in. Second the goalkeeper looked like a noob by not standing guard against his goal but decided to go in the net with a gentle push which is enough to not let the goal stand. The refs need to think straight next time because they're very soft to Spain.

That's a little bit too much don't you think 💀

Rodri literally in tears banging the ground last time we played. Calm down flower.

Corruption as always.

For me just now, I don’t let it ruin the moment I celebrate regardless. So it’s more waking up the neighbours and then feeling like an idiot. If the goals stand it’s worth it but if not I have some apologies to make 😂

But going forward I’m afraid it will take it away and I’ll actually have to consider even watching at all. It sucks

Sorry, I can't hear you from your position 2md in the group.

They aren't required to do any signals for offside, that's the linesman's job

Glasses of Spanish sweat as they type furiously defending blatant corruption.

Frustrating game. Could've easily got something out of that. Gonnae at least do us a favour and beat Norway on Sunday Spain

Yeah okay you're right

Well, after this boring and controversial match, I may have something to say.

Personally, I think that Scotland's goal was valid. But even if it counted, they were playing like Getafe and it was a matter of time that someone scored. And the second Spanish goal was just perfect, que barbaridad Joselu.

Anyways I have to say goodbye to all of you Guiris, Mountain English and fellow Spaniards. 🇪🇸

We can justify it because it was a goal.

He's allowed to stand there.

What a career Navas has had. I'll always have a soft spot for him. I was really impressed with Merino tonight. Scotland played well all things considered. They always seem to play Spain tough and are still in a good position.

They want Spain and Haaland there.

Shows how shite you lot are that you're taking this much pleasure lol. Still top of the group.

That certainly is a take you have there.

It’s likely some sort of translation issue. They were checking if Hendry was interfering with Simon all along The bloke doing the graphics has interpreted it as checking a foul rather than offside.

Don't need spice when you've got gravy pal

scots, the only people that act more miserable than english

i'm sure you were thinking this during the 10 or so minutes where it was ruled as a foul

where else have you seen a referee decision retroactively changed during a match

We're about to make this thread so bad that the threads on Israel will look like fucking r/aww in comparison. The way God intended

This will be a relaxed and level-headed thread

Lmao why would I cry. It was just so funny after that headline yesterday.

Nothing like winning 2-0 and getting all my comments downvoted. "Banter", I think you guys call it?

Imagine being so wasteful in front of goal that you need dodgy reffing & VAR to spare your blushes.

Was fully expecting a defeat tonight but something about that just stinks

Still no reason we can't get something against Norway & Georgia

Hopefully this Spain team can do us a turn on Sunday then.

I wanted to make a joke about Scotland like they do with us but I just don't know anything about it aside from Trainspotting 😭

The only way they can stop big sexy McTominay

But if the end result is correct, what is there really to whine about?

You think it would be more fair if he allowed an offside goal?

Spain didn't do much to dispel Spanish footballs horrendous reputation there. Ref bought into their bullshit too unfortunately. Spain dominated as they should but it's difficult to accept that farse.

I'd be upset if I was Scotland. Not because of incorrect decisions but because the referees made a mess of the call and the procedure.

I'm not convinced this is a universal thing across UEFA. In the official Laws of the Game document there are pages on refereeing signals with no mention of these

https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2023-24?l=en

(page 63+)

In theory if we beat Spain and then beat Scotland with two goals Scotland need three points in Georgia.

Like winning but still being angry and bitter about it instead of happy with the 3 points and moving on. Evidently from so many of the comments from the Spaniards here, they're still bitter about us pumping them 2-0 at our ground.

What a great way of celebrating the national holiday, like eating chocolate potato chip with pepper 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

How did Sancet play?

I think it was offside. My problem is the ref was called to look for a foul, called for a foul, UEFA said it was a foul and then 10 minutes later UEFA come back and say it was actually offside. That is a complete joke of a performance from the referee and VAR and is not fit for a game of this magnitude. Adding to that I thought the referee was completely woeful for the rest of the game as well which only added to this.

In other words the level of the referee should be questioned. Not the call.

Not even a cunt like Rubiales would sexually assault an scot.

I didn't see the celebration so I'm not sure what you are referring to, but I doubt I'd be that angry if my team celebrated a win against any team. I'll take a 2-0 over Luton and be damn happy about it

In bigger stadiums yes, but I visited the Camp Nou and Anoeta (Reale Arena) the past year twice and they didn't show anything on the screen other than "VAR Check". Same in Cyprus where most stadiums don't even have a big screen.

It might be different in each country, but even then the stadiums announcer/producer is who is responsible for that.

Holy shit what are Scottish fans on 😭😭 this is the first time I've ever seen multiple death threats/suggestions in a match thread

The ball went in the back of the net. Nobody was fouled and nobody was offside. Ergo it was a goal.

Here for the Scottish tears.

In no world with VAR you can get away with obstructing the goalie's movement on the goal line, while offside.

Oh so that's how Spain never fucking lose in home qualifiers.

Feed that useless fucking prick ref to the Dutch ultras pls.

Honestly never seen a more fixed match in my life.

Thats what one of the so-called 'best footballing nations in the world' need to win against Scotland??

We're fucking shite. We hammered yous once, and yous need the dodgiest refereeing of all time to achieve the exact same result in return?

Deary me. I mean I'd respect it if you'd managed to get to first in the group, but this? Wow....

Tbf they do go over if the offside is ambiguous in terms of whether the player is interfering in play. He would have been asked if he was interfering. Whoever it was should have at least been onside for our own freekick and not give them this ammunition

Yeah mate I think this one‘s a bit shit but your hearts in the right place

Our team's not that good anymore, we won, it's the national holiday, we're happy. I understand that "happiness" has yet to be invented in the land where the sun doesn't rise, but that's no reason to be so mad about it.

You should just stop watching sports.

A foul for a hand brushing against him? I'm surprised they didn't get the police involved

Could be a technical/visual mistake by broadcasters. Regardless it was offside

Brexit was the correct choice.

I can accept that Hendry may have been offside, but then why did they make the referee go to the screen? Am I wrong? Don't the VAR officials usually make offside decisions themselves? At the very least, shouldn't the referee get the lines applied to the screen so he doesn't have to rely on his naked eye?

It seems like the referee did in fact disallow it for being a foul, and ten minutes later the VAR officials told the commentators he was offside because they realised that was a stupid decision. Just a shitshow all around.

What a weird position to take.

Nuestros hermanos really getting under their skin.

Not going to lie, I have no great love for either the Scottish or Spanish national teams but it is brilliant seeing how much the Scots have boiled Spanish piss over these two games

I'm also

Oh my god you actually think that was a foul that's hilarious

Campeones del grupo A de la clasificatoria a la eurocopa, trofeo inolvidable.

At the end of the day the goal being disallowed is correct.

refer to my previous reply

Injustica etc

Okay Northern England

Oops, stood. Yeah that was bad.

Because the keeper isn't even attempting a save. You can't interfere with play if a play isn't being made.

So basically Scotland gets to put all of the blame of the game on the ref for ruling off an illegal goal

But if Rodri complains in the First Leg then he is a crybaby and bad loser

Cool

Pobre Escocia.

Equipo chico, Gales es mas grande

They like rugby but they got embarrassed in the World Cup, you can joke about that

Standed

You'll no find a single cunt in Scotland that unironically says banter.

Catalonia gave us a good game tonight.

At some point you gotta wonder why, if that's legal, nobody ever does it in any other game.

Not a bad performance considering we were missing Tierney who is IMO so vital to the system we play.

Now time to hope Spain can beat Norway so we qualify.. 😉

I am on my phone and it's late and i am tired give me a break mate

Good lord.

this is my first time seeing a blatantly fixed match

Uefa confirmed it was for a foul, not offside.

Actually, we want the English on Spains side on this one.

why is this being downvoted

Cause you're a hibee mate

Has ido a matar jajaja

Aren't you romanian? 😂

I'm salty as fuck.

No way we'd have lost 2 goals if that outrages joke of a decision wasn't made. Fuming.

the only non-scottish matches i have ever watched are japan in the 2022 & 2018 world cup

Oh he signaled for no goal instead this calls for a replay

refer to the entire rest of the post

Mctomineys goal. Absolute farce to disallow it for a foul on VAR. Absolute farcical.

Scottish fans are angry at the ref because he rightfully disallowed the goal but used the wrong handsignals.

In other words Scotlands offside goal should have stood in their eyes. It's fucking stupid.

Scotland's been playing football for longer than Spain and they haven't even started getting there yet!

TIL the scots are bigger crybabies than the english

Shades of that Italian fouling Hutton in the corner.

Spain deserved the win overall, but shows how far we’ve come that we’re disappointed to not take something from Spain away.

It was offside the whole time. Whoever it was doing the broadcast misinterpreted “checking interference” as “checking foul”.

Because the Scottish player shoves/touches the goalkeeper. It is very soft but I have seen fouls called for less.

VAR team

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goal-posts-down-the-field-gif-12072162

No I can't, it was really weird that the first replays first seemed to indicate it as a foul. I was as baffled as you

But on the later replays it is a no brainer, clear as day offside. The end decision was correct so what is there to cry about?

That's what they said at the time. Then 15 minutes later they said offside.

So, fucking what was it?

How does it feel to be humbled and humiliate by your parents (Ireland and England) and completely outperformed by your youngest sibling (Wales)?

Don't even give a shite now, but very very very dodgy referring there.

I'm still ragin about that Alan Hutton foul against Italy and Armstrong against England. They keep me up at night sometimes

Hahaha lessgoooo. VAMOS JODER.

YO SOY ESPAÑOL ESPAÑOL ESPAÑOL 🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦

Hand us our Paella back, time to un-deep fry it.

Well, mate, I'm thinking the game was corrupt as fuck and they're throwing any reason they can at a wall to see what sticks.

But also, I'm kind of over it, and we'd have been lucky to get a point out the game.

It seems a mess and very conveinent for Spain is all.

No you didn't. You explained why UEFA changed their minds later and said it was offside, But you didn't explain why the VAR and the ref both thought it was a foul.

Scots can't take a loss

Correct at being wrong.

not even a bit of sexual assault from your FA?

Chocolate potatoes chips

With pepper

What the actual fuck?!

The goalie is never saving that in a million years, how can it be interfering???

They certainly did! It’s all corruption under the Scottish sky

Well played North England 👏👏

Irmao 🤝

No way the keeper saves it. You cannot interfere with someone who has no chance of challenging for the ball.

Is your best comeback mentioning how much more successful Spain is than Scotland? Come on

Gay insults from a supposedly progressive country, shame..

because not also was it not even offside, it was not given for an offside, it was given specifically as a foul, the players were told by the referee it was a foul, the signal given by the referee was for a foul, the stadium screen itself said foul

Para los hispanoparlantes, ¿Oyarzabal ha estado tan mal como lo he visto yo, o no? Me ha parecido un partido penoso.

Don't mind losing to a better team but anyone trying to claim that McTominay goal was correctly disallowed is absolutely on one. Keep in mind, regardless of what UEFA try to claim 10/20 minutes after the fact, that the goal was initially disallowed for a foul. Lyndon Dykes is getting completely manhandled at the same time but somehow Hendry is the one supposedly giving away a foul, complete and utter shite from a referee who had a shocker.

Worst officiating I've seen in Scotland match since the Italy match in 2007.

Lmao

The sound of silence 👌

anybody know why Tierney isn't playing?

You guys are literally calling for a correct call to be overturned…

Yeah we suck now. At least we were good at some point though.

Based on these comments, I'll assume the game was completely normal and everyone got along

He is standing on top of Simon and has his hand on his chest. There is absolutely no way Simon could have got around him to get the cross

No matter how the decision making process transpired it was the correct decision in the end

When the ref looked at the VAR there were no lines drawn?

UEFA doing their best to get Haaland to the Euros.

There’s nothing like Brits crying after a game

Did you just tell him to die over a football match. Jesus you lot have lost your heads after this one 😭