Liverpool FC statement

I don't know exactly how, but it's time for a complete reform of refereeing in the Premier League. Maybe that involves each club having a representative with input into the training, post-match reviews, with full access to their reports and audio. Maybe that even includes a club official with additional training in laws of the game being within the VAR room to fight a club's cause and highlight anything that might be missed.

PGMOL hold far too much power. The league is successful despite them, and it's time the refs got back in their fucking box and do what they're told, every change IFAB and PGMOL have made in recent years seems to make the game worse, and their standards are appalling.

Replay the match…

Fair play, a very strong statement. Unacceptable doesn't even begin to describe messing up a decision that straightforward.

Meaningful change should have happened last season after Skipp was left bleeding on the pitch due to a high boot by Jota (who later went on to score the winner in that match). Klopp's reaction? Telling Ryan Mason to worry about something else rather than a missed call that helped undermine the sporting integrity.

Holy shit Liverpool are embarrassing hahahahaha

It was a failure, singular; the offside was the error. The cards were correct. There wasn’t failures. Just one huge error.

Jeez. Get a grip.

Thankfully those in the VAR room had a successful audition for the UAE League earlier in the week so they'll be OK even if they get fired in England

Now this is my kind of statement.

Fingers crossed every club rallies behind this. We really can't let it continue like this.

Good statement but don’t be surprised at all the “harsh” and “suspicious” decisions Liverpool now cop. The PGMOL boys club will make sure every debatable call goes against them now

The whole point of football is to score a goal.

If a perfectly good goal isnt allowed then something is very wrong and not fit for purpose.

for fucks sake.

Everyone is acting like is akin to genocide.

LFC is not the first club nor the last club that will get fucked by VAR.

Move on.

They probably weren’t arsy when Wolves’ goal was wrongly disallowed for offside in the FA cup because they couldn’t find the correct angle, they can keep crying for what I care of course they also fail to mention that their goal came from the refereeing wrongfully awarding them a free kick

Are pool the softest team to ever exist? They have 1 (really) bad call go against them after years of preferential treatment and they do this. I'd be embarrassed.

I remember the good old days before VAR where there were no significant human errors!

Jesze it's like everyone has never seen an incorrect call before, look its a doozy, but also... come on... there are dubious calls in every game forever, discretion, time, lack of vision... are you protesting the fact that there will always be a potential for human error, so protesting the fact that we are human and can make errors? or are all the people complaining on here perfect little robots that have never made a wee boo-boo.

Grow up, the lot of ya.

Human error does not cut it when it happens all the time for every team. There are no excuses when you have access to replays from 10 different angles. Why are referees a protected species ? They earn 200k a year and are in the 1%. If Vice Presidents at companies make wrong decisions , they get sacked and lessons are learned.

###Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL’s admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.

We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.

It is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.

That such failings have already been categorised as “significant human error” is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.

This is vital for the reliability of future decision-making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.

In the meantime, we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution.

fuck me you can tell it’s liverpool

Wolves been getting fucked over for years, and nothing. All of a sudden it hits Liverpool and serious changes need to be made? Ok pals…

Not surprised. The idea of the VAR guys not correcting the referee when he didn't give the goal and then just saying 'it was a mistake' is straight bullshit. Sounds mental but if I wanted to screw a team over by not giving a goal, this is exactly how I'd have gone about it.

This is just gonna piss the refs off even more resulting us getting even less decisions lol. Although watching that spurs game and the Newcastle one where joelinton was given free reign to commit as many fouls as he wanted I'm not sure that's possible.

all teams should support this.

Howard Webb is going to have to be in the VAR rooms every game lmao.

It was a failure, singular; the offside was the error. The cards were correct. There wasn’t failures. Just one huge error.

Here's hoping the league punishes Liverpool thoroughly for this embarrassing online petition. Mistakes have happened to many teams, and a point was no guarantee for them as they RIGHTFULLY went down two players due to their team members playing on the edge of professionalism.

Replay the match…

This is ridiculous. They made a bad mistake. It’s happened since the beginning of the game.

What do Liverpool expect is even going to happen?

As a Chelsea fan, I am still pissed Mike Dean knowingly allowed a bad call to stand because correcting his dear friend Anthony Taylor who was the referee was not something he wanted to do. MF admitted this. So I am all with Liverpool in taking this incompetent and corrupt referring out to the cleaners. Fuck Taylor and fuck Mike Dean.

Klopp must be irritate with the club right now considering he told other managers they have other things to worry about when managers called the ref out after matches against his side.

introduce challenge system or have both team provide a representative to be present in the VAR room

Lawsuits incoming. Buckle up.

Brighton are gonna have a tough game on their hands. Those refs are gonna be nice as hell to Liverpool.

The extent Liverpool is milking this is embarrassing. Yes this specific example is blatantly wrong but plenty of other teams have dropped points due to VAR.

But now that it's Klopp that's on the end of it we are never going to hear the end of it.

(Both the reds were valid as well btw).

Don't bother replying to me pool fans I'm notgoing to read it.

Is it Unacceptable this has happened? Yes completely, but lets not kid ourselves here, Liverpool as well as the other top clubs have had the rub off of the officiating referees these past years and VAR has smaller teams plenty of points as well. One team was relegated because goal line technology failed during a match. If they want the sue the refs etc up to them, but Spurs have no right to suffer any consequences due to poor officiating.Sort the system out but you need to take this one in the chin.

We're going to war lads and I'm here for it

Is there something I’m missing? It was a messed up decision with VAR involved. Happens all the time. Doesn’t make it better but what exactly is special about this one?

I think this is the most I’ve ever been behind a rival club. Please escalate this as much as you can, until they get rid of all of that corrupt old boys club 🙏

The comment about exploring all available avenues is interesting. I think the problem is, at some point very shortly after the goal every official knows that we should have been 1 up. All of them. Nothing is done to rectify that for the entire game. Nothing of consequence happens by the time the referee knows.

It's a very bad look.

I struggle to think of a club with a bigger victim complex and sense of entitlement than Liverpool.

Now this is my kind of statement.

Fingers crossed every club rallies behind this. We really can't let it continue like this.

Why are rival fans complaining as if asking for transparency and reviews after massive mistakes isn't something the league as a whole would benefit from? Baffling how there's smug spurs fans in here when it has about 50% chance to happen to them next week given the standard of VAR/refereeing in the league

Ref missed one call lol.

It wasn't awful all around. One call was missed, granted, but the sendings off were valid.

sue them

It baffles me the amount of people in this thread with comments like 'just beacause it's liverpool' 'cry babies' and 'every team gets fucked over by refereeing decisions'

The officiating in that game was awful all round, the officiating in most games is horrific, no team should lose or gain advantage caused by incompetent referees. This is not about Spurs it's about the referees constantly fucking up and just apologising afterwards like it makes it okay. I'm assuming Brentford will get an apology call from Webb tonight too.

Every team and supporter should be behind Liverpool on this.

Any other job you would've been fired for such a monumental fuck up like this smh

Great statement, bring the fire gents

At this point, what’s the real point in continuing with VAR at all? Before it’s inclusion in the game, we could yell at the screen, point at the replays and complain that your team got short-changed because an official made a mistake. Now, WITH VAR we’re doing the exact same thing, but with more stoppages

Victim FC finally getting the short end of the VAR stick

If Liverpool loses the league by less than 3 points then there'll be lawsuits.

But have they tried worrying about other stuff

This is embarrassing

This is genuinely embarrassing

oh they are angry

the point of VAR is to fix mistakes...........

This is what I wanted. Escalate this shit. Fuck the pgmol and fuck these refs. Corrupt, insecure, and utterly useless.

Hope they bring in the lawyers tbh. Only way to get something done

Just release the audio, would be interesting to hear it and it's the least PGMOL can do at this point

They're escalating. Nice. Proper fighting words.

Im sure it'll come to nothing but more egregious bustups with the refs. But im glad we arent just meekly accepting it

Not that Liverpool should just sit on their hands and say 'Well they said oops, our bad, so big deal', but I don't know what avenues they think there are to pursue. They're not going to get a replay or points awarded to them, unless their goal is to force changes to transparency from officials regarding VAR decisions, I don't know what else they think they're going to get.

But have they tried worrying about other stuff

Genuinely is there a single club happy with the refereeing this season? Never seen it this bad

I guess they are going to take action now. Wolves should also stake a claim from their match against Man United, as should Brentford with the penalty claim.

The technology is there to help make the correct decisions, it’s the incompetence and dare I say arrogance of referees that are affecting sporting results.

These points could have affected a team’s relegation survival chances, or even European and title chances. That’s a massive deal.

There needs to be proper accountability and transparency from the referees and until we see that, there will continue to be this lackadaisical approach.

Also, I don’t condone violence and abuse to referees, but they need to know that there’s a difference to criticism and verbal abuse. Referees are human beings too so I believe that opening the barrier of communication, transparency and cooperation will lead to lower abuse and disrespect towards them.

Isn’t it just truly beautiful how every football fan can put aside any rivalries and collectively hate the PGMOL

How many more “significant human errors”? You should take your time to come to a concrete decision, that’s why VAR is there. Leagues can be lost due to these decisions

They didn’t draw the lines when Arsenal drew Brentford last season either. It’s time for VAR real-time transparency.

Danny Murphy has said multiple times over the few months that they need to get ex-professional players into the VAR booths and I 100% agree.

We would see a significant reduction of ridiculous decisions being made.

Decision where we hear ex-professionals with thousands of games between agree the refs got it wrong...

Jones straight red is an example of this.

I've yet to hear any ex-professional player say this was straight red.

Unfortunately it is never going ro happen because the PGMOL will never let in outsiders in as it will show how bad they have become.

Meaningful change should have happened last season after Skipp was left bleeding on the pitch due to a high boot by Jota (who later went on to score the winner in that match). Klopp's reaction? Telling Ryan Mason to worry about something else rather than a missed call that helped undermine the sporting integrity.

Nice try Liverpool.

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Holy shit what a cringe statement, was this written by a fan that thinks they're a lawyer or something?

Hey Liverpool fans, don't mistake the genuine sympathy that was turned into political influence which improved the game for a permanent political influence on football.

Nobody else gets "resolution" so fuck off, next time just score more goals?

Well shit happens, bad decision yes, but let's move on and go with the flow

What’s the solution that Liverpool is looking for? Competent reffing? Get real!

Are pool the softest team to ever exist? They have 1 (really) bad call go against them after years of preferential treatment and they do this. I'd be embarrassed.

Hope they bring in the lawyers tbh. Only way to get something done

They want the audio and transparency, fair enough

So the PL referee union has chosen Spurs as their team for the season.

Liverpool fans really are the Trump supporters of the football world. Everyone is out to get them, everything is a grand conspiracy...

What about the other 14 or so times over the past two seasons where PGMOL have issued apologies?? Nothing changed. Nothing will change again and the season will keep going. Regardless of your club allegiance this will keep happening to all of us. Some we will profit by and some we will feel hard done by. Sad state of the game currently.

This could be a win for all PL clubs

Man city and pep is all over. It is clear the UAE is paying refs to be biased at least at best to work on their interests.

Amount of tribalism in here is insane…every team in the PL should be joining this effort because clearly something is rotten in the PGMOL and it isn’t getting better. In fact I would argue every season since the implementation of VAR the standard has decreased despite the addition of technology that in theory should improve the standard of reffing. I say this as a ‘Pool fan but it seems every matchweek there is some VAR drama that results in some bs “apology” yet no action is taken. Take the piss out of Liverpool sure but at least our club is finally saying enough is enough.

They didn’t draw the lines when Arsenal drew Brentford last season either. It’s time for VAR real-time transparency.

If Liverpool loses the league by less than 3 points then there'll be lawsuits.

In the meantime, we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution.

Fighting words lol

Just release the audio, would be interesting to hear it and it's the least PGMOL can do at this point

The thing that makes this totally unacceptable for me is after the initial mistake when the VAR team think the goal has been given, which is bad enough, is the fact they say nothing to the ref when Spurs are given a free kick and are not kicking off from the centre circle.

That obviously shows the goal hadn't been given, what were they doing? Clearly not looking at the screen. It's embarrassingly bad.

Yes lads! Go for them! The whole league needs this. Wish Merc were like this after the ‘human error’ farce in Abu Dhabi 2021.

VAR inserts human judgment where none is needed.

Offsides can be determined by sensor technology: Each player could be tagged for location, if the rules were to require comparison of, say, foot positions alone. Sensors in ball and boots could leave VAR "human error" behind: no lines to "interpret"; no worry for angles. It works for goal line tech. Should be doable for offsides.

This will be interesting to see what avenues they can actually explore. Because 'sorry' doesn't give Liverpool anything. They lost 3 points. It is like someone apologising for shitting on your car. Like ok Darren but the shit is still there and you haven't offered to clean it up.

i just wonder if there would have been this much discussion if say chelsea or city faced what liverpool faced.

i think PL wouldnt care much and people would be completely okay and actively laughing if those teams lost.

So why when i posted this was it deleted for having a vague title even though it was the exact same and was posted 10 minutes earlier?

That such failings have already been categorised as “significant human error” is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.

This does seem like they've had enough of simply being apologised to.

Take them to court, so ridiculous that an error like that can take place in the highest professional football league in the world.

No problem with the statements. More clubs should do this. Also glad to see they focused on the blatant error and not the controversial red cards that Jota and Jones received

introduce challenge system or have both team provide a representative to be present in the VAR room

Howard Webb is going to have to be in the VAR rooms every game lmao.

sue them

Yay maybe this will finally be the start of the EPL doing something about its disgraceful refereeing

Im guessing the PGMOL didn't hand over the audio and studio camera recordings like LFC wanted.

EDIT:

That such failings have already been categorised as “significant human error” is also unacceptable.

LFC are saying its BS that you have released an excuse before you have conducted an investigation.

Hoping other clubs get behind us on this, PGMOL boys club are ruining our sport.

This game in question is the most egregious robbery / worst officiated game I think I've seen since I started watching football in 2006. I didn't see that famous United vs Arsenal game but could it be the worst officiated game in PL history? Two nothing red cards and a legit goal taken away?

You would think losing to a small trophy less club like Tottenham would literally mean nothing….Unless…

TLDR: we’re crying so hard now.

We’ll probably get a point deduction for not just accepting their ‘apology’ and moving on.