German Social Democrat Leader Boycotts Bernie Over Palestine

https://jacobin.com/2023/10/german-social-democrats-bernie-sanders-israel-palestine-boycott/

German Social Democratic Party leader Saskia Esken has boycotted a Bernie Sanders event over his supposedly anti-Israel statements. Bernie’s statement? “The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it.”

ED: A recent episode with a popular German political podcaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01qZutfh4M

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gibmiser@lemmy.world · 185 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Fucking virtue signaling for team Israel.
It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government. That is NOT antisemitism.

livus@kbin.social · 17 pts · 2y

Might not be all that commited to her virtue signalling, at that.

Someone who closely monitors her wikipedia page is trying to keep this information on her political position from appearing there...

Uranium3006@kbin.social · 10 pts · 2y (2 replies)

It's antisemitism to insist that Jewish people who don't even live there are connected to Israel's crimes aginst humanity

roguetrick@kbin.social · 54 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Sure, I don't know what that has to do with notable Jewish senator Bernard Sanders that lived in a Kibbutz in Israel at one time, though.

propaganja@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y

Quite notable, that Bernard.

steakmeout@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 2y

Exactly.

Ooops@kbin.social · -13 pts · 2y (1 reply)

It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government.

No, it's not if you are German.

And this has nothing to to with some signaling for team Israel. If a single high-ranking politician in Germany would be caught saying that Israel is commiting war crimes the international media wouldn't need more than 30 minutes before the calls for invading to denazify Germany again would start. And with the usual hateful morons being in control it would only need to another 30 minutes before we had reached the bomb them all and finally destroy that failed country stage on social media.

You should really try having any opinoin but one of highest praise and adoration for Israel as a random nobody from Germany on social media. Then you might understand actual reality. This is not Germans that call for your immidiate execution the moment you dare to criticise Israel.

FFS... I dared to mention over on Reddit that Hamas' terrorist acts don't suddenly make Israel's actions right and now have another dozen new messages calling me a nazi or calling for me to be shot (or both) for my collection, alongside with a lot of new messages from Reddit's mental health bot offering me all the hotline numbers I obviously need before I start hurting my self and others in my unstable mental state.

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roguetrick@kbin.social · 120 pts · 2y (2 replies)

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

Hahahaha

livus@kbin.social · 19 pts · 2y (1 reply)

@roguetrick this is even better than Don Draper "I don't think of you at all."

Letstakealook@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 2y

Damn, I should rewatch that show. It was goddamn great.

Cylusthevirus@kbin.social · 110 pts · 2y (2 replies)

So ... the German is boycotting the Jewish guy's event over his statements regarding the morality of war crimes. The Onion is doomed, we're out of satire.

dpkonofa@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y (1 reply)

No way, dude… have you seen the Onion this week? They are killing it and should be accused of war crimes any minute now.

EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Oh they can’t possibly be. They sided with Israel - because it’s politically safer

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 78 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Lol I just can’t with these people going after Sanders, who is Jewish

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 2y (3 replies)

He's the wrong kind of Jew.

RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 2y (1 reply)

They want the placid, malleable kind of jew, not one who has his own opinions.

PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 2y

They want Zionists, if you aren't a Zionist Jew, what good are you?

Suoko@feddit.it · 8 pts · 2y

He represents 17% of the Jewish population. https://g.co/bard/share/8f756e99642e

It's nice to read a non-biased AIi opinion on the zionism matter. https://g.co/bard/share/81ff92a41241

Jollyllama@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y

When they said "Be a light unto the nations" they were referring to the white phosphorus***.

***Alleged

Redex68@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Literally the only American politician with any integrity who stands by his beliefs and ofc he never wins an election. This is why we can't have nice things, because apparently feeding homeless people is communism but subsidising dying fossil fuel industries is patriotism.

roguetrick@kbin.social · 21 pts · 2y

I wouldn't knock the electability anyone who can win senator or governor, particularly for as long as Bennie has held on.

Mcdolan@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 2y (1 reply)
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dustyData@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y

Are they still doing that thing that when reality turns out this absurd they start posting actual straight journalist reports?

Uranium3006@kbin.social · 35 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Saskia Esken is being antisemitic by silencing and shaming Jewish voices

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 2y (1 reply)

My father taught me something early on which I paraphrase as "when in doubt, shut the fuck up". Clearly that lady was not taught that lesson.

KnightontheSun@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

alvvayson@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 2y (1 reply)

So a German boycotted a Jewish man for speaking in support of Human Rights of an oppressed people.

Not a good take.

paultimate14@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

This feels like a tired old comedy sketch.

penquin@lemmy.kde.social · 26 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Germany will keep simping to Israel till the end of time. lol Isn't Bernie Jewish himself?

Aceticon@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 2y

German politician is against Jew who made a clear stand against war crimes.

Sounds familiar, somehow.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 24 pts · 2y

Lunatics take positions like this.

dumdum666@kbin.social · 19 pts · 2y

If indeed only this sentence was the reason for Esken to cancel the meeting - it is a clear overreaction. Nobody should be on board with targeting civilians - meaning: they should not get attacked on purpose. Never.

roguetrick@kbin.social · 18 pts · 2y

I like that Bernie's response to "eat the rich is" "No, no, no, that's a start, but it's not enough."

TWeaK@lemm.ee · 14 pts · 2y

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

honeynut@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y

objectively the moderate wing

FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y

Oh no, now she won't be buying any more Bernie Sanderses!

doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 2y
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Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y

The SDP has been a joke for a long time and it will continue to be a joke for quite some time to come.

nyar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Liberals are very quickly taking a turn into undeniable fascism. I was concerned what might happen when the climate wars truly begin, but now I don't have any concerns, I know.

fosforus@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 2y (2 replies)
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nyar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Sorry, but who is the one running the open air concentration camp? Oh, it's Hamas who can turn off the electricity and water to Israel?

Fuck off you fucking moron/fascist troll.

fosforus@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2y
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library_napper@monyet.cc · -2 pts · 2y

Germans generally aren't the best authority on treating the jews, so...

PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · -14 pts · 2y

Yo, fuck the coal nation of Germany.

Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml · -19 pts · 2y

Reminder that Germany never underwent denazification.

Isakk86@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Something something glass houses

toastus@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y

What are you saying?