TOML in Python

https://til.simonwillison.net/python/toml

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itadakimasu@programming.dev · 2 pts · 3y

I love toml. It's so natural. I use it all the time (for smaller configs)

jim@programming.dev · 1 pts · 3y (7 replies)

I think yaml was a perfectly fine way to express a hash/dict like config. I am surprised that toml was so widely adopted by the community.

sisyphean@programming.dev · 8 pts · 3y

YAML is extremely complex for a configuration format and it has many really weird edge cases:

https://noyaml.com/

The problem is IMHO made worse because it looks so friendly at first glance.

carl_the_grackle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3y (4 replies)

Yaml is fine until you want to abbreviate Norway and get false... toml doesn't handle everything well but at least it doesn't have insane problems like that.

Andy@programming.dev · 5 pts · 3y (3 replies)

While that shouldn't happen with a current-spec YAML parser, I agree even the current spec does way too much with types.

I've come to love NestedText's approach of leaving all type handling to the ingesting code.

jnovinger@programming.dev · 3 pts · 3y (2 replies)

You should make a post about NestedText. That looks interesting and pretty close to my own internal note-taking style.

Andy@programming.dev · 1 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Would you suggest a topic or tooling to pair with it, so I can provide a good demo for working with it in a real and useful context?

I made a CLI tool for working with it but want to avoid making a look-at-me spammy post, and I think the NestedText site itself explains the ideas pretty well already.

jnovinger@programming.dev · 3 pts · 3y

First, I have to apologize, I just meant post a link to NestText as a post in c/Python. I definitely didn't mean to imply you should have to go write a blog post (or something) about it just for me. I swear this was just an attempt to get another person posting interesting things to c/Python. 😬

Looking through the community projects and docs, the use cases/tooling that really stood out to me were:

Thinking about how I might use it:

GTG3000@programming.dev · 6 pts · 3y

As someone who had tried to wrap their mind around YAML spec...

Fuck yaml. It is ridiculous how much junk there is in that spec.