#FT: Greece 0-1 Netherlands
Venue: OPAP Arena
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Greece
Odisseas Vlachodimos, Panagiotis Retsos, Konstantinos Mavropanos, Konstantinos Koulierakis (Manolis Siopis), Lazaros Rota, Dimitrios Kourbelis (Andreas Bouchalakis), Petros Mantalos (Vangelis Pavlidis), Anastasios Bakasetas (Taxiarchis Fountas), Fotis Ioannidis, Kostas Tsimikas, Georgios Masouras (Georgios Giakoumakis).
Subs: Giannis Konstantelias, Dimitris Pelkas, Anastasios Chatzigiovanis, Dimitris Giannoulis, Alexandros Paschalakis, Dimitrios Goutas, Sokratis Dioudis.
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Netherlands
Bart Verbruggen, Nathan Aké, Virgil van Dijk, Quilindschy Hartman (Micky van de Ven), Lutsharel Geertruida (Donyell Malen), Xavi Simons (Joey Veerman), Tijjani Reijnders, Mats Wieffer (Marten de Roon), Wout Weghorst (Brian Brobbey), Steven Bergwijn, Denzel Dumfries.
Subs: Daley Blind, Ian Maatsen, Calvin Stengs, Nick Olij, Andries Noppert, Stefan de Vrij, Jeremie Frimpong.
MATCH EVENTS | via ESPN
13' Lutsharel Geertruida (Netherlands) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
13' Dimitrios Kourbelis (Greece) is shown the yellow card.
28' Penalty saved. Wout Weghorst (Netherlands) right footed shot saved in the bottom right corner.
28' Petros Mantalos (Greece) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
45' Substitution, Netherlands. Donyell Malen replaces Lutsharel Geertruida.
51' Xavi Simons (Netherlands) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
60' Substitution, Greece. Taxiarchis Fountas replaces Anastasios Bakasetas because of an injury.
61' Substitution, Greece. Andreas Bouchalakis replaces Dimitrios Kourbelis.
61' Substitution, Greece. Manolis Siopis replaces Konstantinos Koulierakis.
62' Substitution, Netherlands. Brian Brobbey replaces Wout Weghorst.
62' Substitution, Netherlands. Joey Veerman replaces Xavi Simons.
74' Substitution, Netherlands. Micky van de Ven replaces Quilindschy Hartman.
76' Panagiotis Retsos (Greece) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
77' Substitution, Greece. Giorgos Giakoumakis replaces Giorgos Masouras.
81' Substitution, Netherlands. Marten de Roon replaces Mats Wieffer because of an injury.
81' Substitution, Greece. Vangelis Pavlidis replaces Petros Mantalos.
86' Vangelis Pavlidis (Greece) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul.
90'+3' Goal! Greece 0, Netherlands 1. Virgil van Dijk (Netherlands) converts the penalty with a right footed shot to the bottom right corner.
306 Comments
panamolegos@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I know there's virtually no chance of it happening, but Ireland and Gibraltar have a chance to do something objectively hilarious in a month's time
dontstealmychair@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hey so can u against france tbf
timdeking@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ireland would literally benefit from losing to us lol
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah it's over Ireland will definitely throw the game. It makes no sense for them to try
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah it's over Ireland will definitely throw the game. It makes no sense for them to try
Waldier@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Why didn’t you do it yourself? Had two games to do something, scoring a total of 0 goals. Maybe next time start with some strikers.
Waldier@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Why didn’t you do it yourself? Had two games to do something, scoring a total of 0 goals. Maybe next time start with some strikers.
panamolegos@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Most likeable Dutch "person":
AEKAntistash@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It’s a shame we have become so hospitable nowadays. Really makes you miss those 2018 encounters with the Dutch
panamolegos@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Most likeable Dutch "person":
dontstealmychair@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hey so can u against france tbf
timdeking@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ireland would literally benefit from losing to us lol
chiba64@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
The var and ref holy fuck, these spanish refs are one of the if not the worst refs on the planet.
alb1rom0@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What an embarassing match for the Dutch. Koeman is the biggest fraud manager of all time
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greece was just as bad though as was the pitch and the ref
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greece was just as bad though as was the pitch and the ref
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Missing half our starting 11 and our entire attack, not too shabby tbh
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Missing half our starting 11 and our entire attack, not too shabby tbh
ob3ypr1mus@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
good, shove those laser pens up your asses.
R_Schuhart@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greek FA should be hit with an absurd fine to be honest, this shit is getting ridiculous at this point. Ref could also just stop games and if it continues award a 3-0 win.
It is a known issue but they absolutely refuse to do anything about it. It influences games, is unfair and potentially dangerous.
Historical_Case_5245@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lasers aside, and as much as I'd want our Greek brothers to qualify, we really don't need Netherlands as an opponent in our eventual play-off bracket.
And if I understand correctly, they would indeed be one of the semi-finalists in our play-off round.
R_Schuhart@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greek FA should be hit with an absurd fine to be honest, this shit is getting ridiculous at this point. Ref could also just stop games and if it continues award a 3-0 win.
It is a known issue but they absolutely refuse to do anything about it. It influences games, is unfair and potentially dangerous.
AEKAntistash@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
The laser pens were awful. I preferred the water bottles being thrown after Van Djik’s shitty celebration.
Historical_Case_5245@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lasers aside, and as much as I'd want our Greek brothers to qualify, we really don't need Netherlands as an opponent in our eventual play-off bracket.
And if I understand correctly, they would indeed be one of the semi-finalists in our play-off round.
No_Presence200@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Someone should tell the Greek you don’t get points for fouls in your own box
Theumaz@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Prime Hernandez performance
AlmostNL@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Koeman vindt het jammer dat er geen penalty specialisten zijn.
Ik kan me die van Koopmeiners nog wel herinneren.
Belocity@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Koopmeiners en Memphis moeten zich beledigd voelen. En tja, die waren er nu niet bij, maar Bergwijn kan er ook een aardig paar goede nemen
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We were shit, Greece was shit, and the ref & VAR were shit. Just a giant shit show but we got the job done.
Alia_Gr@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
don't forget the cunts with the laser pens, they top the shit charts
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
No idea how the UEFA doesn't crack down on that harshly.
ZeGuru101@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Honestly, makes me ashamed to be Greek and root for the greek team.
Let's see how we do on the playoffs.
optimalg@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
If I were a player I'd bring back the Edgar Davids look for a day and rock a pair of laser safely glasses.
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Weghorst can piss off.
Also this match was fucking atrocious, just godawful.
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Still don't understand why he ever starts. He's only ever good as a sub at the end. He adds absolutely fuck all in the first 60 minutes of a match.
El_grandepadre@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Signed by a big club gets you an automatic free ticket, and one heroic free kick in his entire career is enough to stay on-board. Despite having five goals this entire year.
RuubGullit@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Really beats me
Maybe Koeman likes the way he sings the anthem or something
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Also why on earth did the man who never scores take the penalty?
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Still our striker, don't really mind that one honestly.
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
58% conversion rate on penalties apparently, I very much mind that one.
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
For sure, but it's not like Vam Dijks rare is better lately.
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Can't find any stats for Van Dijk but the average is about 75% conversion. Surely we have players who aren't far below average?
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Really only one I can find from Virgil was his miss against Argentina
Alia_Gr@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We need to stop getting Spanish refs, they have no idea what they are doing
TwinManBattlePlan@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Please mr cowman, no more weghorst. I like his passion but he's very limited.
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Koeman needs to go to Eindhoven and beg Luuk de Jong to come back. Even if it's just for the Euros.
teymon@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Can't we just play malen as a striker? I thought he was doing well for Dortmund now and he sucked big time on the left today. Luuk has a very good header but he's never really been stellar for the NT apart from that either.
nolesfan2011@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
just play Simons as a striker and adjust the midfield
mattijn13@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He was great for Dortmund on the right, not good on the left
Morganelefay@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He's good only as a last minute battering ram.
Sheakyy@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I would foul Brobbey too if I were slower than he was
zeekoes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Brobbey is pretty fast tbf. Faster than you'd think.
zeekoes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Brobbey is pretty fast tbf. Faster than you'd think.
ItzzTheo@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We fought hard for it but Netherlands is clearly the better team and with much more quality.
JamesakaNoah@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Still props to the Greek. They kept it quite tight at the back. Just wondering why their two strikers were left out? If they could just materialise some chances, it would have been a way more tight game. They were mostly toothless...
utouchme@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It seemed like the plan was to lock up the back to keep it 0-0, and the bring in the attacking players in the last 10-15 minutes to take advantage of the tired defense.
utouchme@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It seemed like the plan was to lock up the back to keep it 0-0, and the bring in the attacking players in the last 10-15 minutes to take advantage of the tired defense.
Magnetronaap@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Punten zijn punten
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I would say my opinion but I don't want another Perma ban
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I'm surprised you didn't already get a ban mr Putin
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Netherlands hive mind downvoting me for no reason lmao
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Netherlands hive mind downvoting me for no reason lmao
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
You might have missed the definition of perma ban.
Also Netherlands 100% deserved to win anyway.
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I was Perma banned but appealed like 20+ times and got unbanned. I know I want to say bad things about our defense
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I was Perma banned but appealed like 20+ times and got unbanned. I know I want to say bad things about our defense
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
You might have missed the definition of perma ban.
Also Netherlands 100% deserved to win anyway.
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I'm surprised you didn't already get a ban mr Putin
flabberguested@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ik kan er zo slecht tegen dat Weghorst zo vreselijk overdreven aan Virgil z'n nek gaat hangen na het scoren van die penalty. Komt zo gemaakt over allemaal. Ik geloof dat je passie hebt en blij bent dat we winnen, maar laat de captain even zn ding doen aub.
yimanya@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Μαλακίες
Βέβαια με τέτοιο όμιλο πως να προκριθείς
Άντε ξέμπλεξε με τα κωλομπαράζ τώρα
hetdelaatje@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Very hard-fought but imo deserved win in the end if you look at the chances. Definitely not the prettiest match, but thats to be expected when the stakes are this high. Also how was that last moment not a penalty, ref seemed a bit intimated there
Josegon02@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
How was that not a pen?
I bet on there being 2 goals, am I being biased or what?
MadsNN06@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
pen at the end, but the 2nd pen shouldnt have been a pen, so balances out ig
Jemmo1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It means you made not 1 mistake but you made 2 mistakes. With the whole 'balancing' you create different rules and thus confusion for players. Why is it allowed today and not next week? Why was it allowed last game and not today...?
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
The game ended after the second pen. That's not balancing out lol. It's like getting robbed a win in a title race, then being awarded a draw you didn't deserve after the other team secures the title.
MadsNN06@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
thats why i put ig, its not something i really agreed with
KnownForNothing@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Definitely a pen at the end. Ref was probably afraid of the home crowd.
nfornear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It was a pen, but to be fair the one before wasnt I think
Jemmo1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So, make 2 mistakes instead of just 1?
Pompert@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But the one before would have been a goal if the ref didnt blow
Larkinz@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
VAR is a flat circle.
BOKM_4@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
How did Van de Ven play off the bench
RuubGullit@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hernandez 2 never disappoints
ChrisWithTildes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Shame. Boys played well, and that second pen really shouldn’t have been given IMO after he looked at it on the monitor. Ody deserves to play at the highest level. Ioannidis should’ve squared it to Masouras.
Oh well. There’s still the playoffs to look forward. Dangerous teams over there as well; Kazakhstan, Luxembourg and Georgia are nothing to scoff at and have shown how dangerous they can be in the qualifiers, but I still like our chances. The team has improved lots from the failures of the past few campaigns, and we can only be proud of it. We shall go for it in March 😤
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What made you think that 2nd pen shouldn't been given? I genuinely don't see it.
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What made you think that 2nd pen shouldn't been given? I genuinely don't see it.
ChrisWithTildes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Way I saw it the contact was extremely light by Pavlidis, Dumfries almost fell by himself. I understand why he gave it, putting your arms out like that is practically asking for it, but plays like this were not called penalties countless of times before.
And to not give the other sour guy an interaction, the last VAR check absolutely was a pen, but he probably wouldn’t make it out the field if he did give it lmao
OnlineMarketingBoii@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Because he is biased as fuck. Clear pen, and another clear pen denied a few minutes later. Ref was on crack
OnlineMarketingBoii@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Because he is biased as fuck. Clear pen, and another clear pen denied a few minutes later. Ref was on crack
Qvdv@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Awful match made slightly more fun by the VAR and referee giving us something entertaining to watch.
oemer10line@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hernandez Hernandez is the worst referee i have ever seen
Aanstekervloeistof@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Not even the worst Spanish one tbh.
newwwtoredddit@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But is he at least the worst spanish referee that gets Uefa matches? (Please say yes)
Doge_peer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Can someone tell me if Malàka would be the good term for the ref?
ChrisWithTildes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Considering the pen he gave and the one he didn’t, yeah, totally accurate
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Can be used as a term for anything between ''Brother/Friend to Asshole/Wanker'' so, yes.
zi76@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I see you played Odyssey, lol
Doge_peer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yes I did lol
zi76@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah, we all learned a handful of words of Greek.
It was nice that Kassandra returned in Valhalla.
nolesfan2011@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
This Dutch team has some serious issues but Greece came up short against both them and France in some close games
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fucking cheating netherlands. Good thing messi humiliated you at the world cup
COMExANDxGETxIT@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Go buy some more laser pens to compensate for all the pens your team gives away.
Djenzer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fuck off with your laser pens
Tygret@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Go cry in Play-Offs
BohRhapTrap@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Cry some more my child.
xdbartxd@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
meanwhile greece hasnt qualified for nearly 10 years
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But greece has at least won a euro lmaoo
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But greece has at least won a euro lmaoo
TheAmazingKoki@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I have some terrible news for you
Slimeyalt@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have the Dutch… lmaoo?
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So.. have we?
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Doesn't count. Previous century
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fair enough. Thanks for the Gyros and good luck in the play offs!
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fair enough. Thanks for the Gyros and good luck in the play offs!
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Doesn't count. Previous century
Milkandcookies1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He doesnt know that, he's 12
Milkandcookies1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He doesnt know that, he's 12
nightwolf2350@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So.. have we?
Slimeyalt@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have the Dutch… lmaoo?
Tomatosoup7@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have we
TheAmazingKoki@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I have some terrible news for you
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have The Netherlands and everyone else
MrGestja@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But the Netherlands has too
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have The Netherlands and everyone else
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greece's was much better tho
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Beating the hosts to win it is a shared experience and Greece did it twice lol
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Beating the hosts to win it is a shared experience and Greece did it twice lol
innocenceiskinky@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Though I actually thought your victory was nice, it wasn't better. You played horrificly defensive football and if xG would've been a thing back then, everyone would've understood just how lucky you guys got. Literally every single win was outperforming the xG by a spectacular margin.
Impressive, sure. Better? nah...
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We beat an insane portugal superteam at home twice, beat the spanish superteam, beat an insane czech republic team, destroyed peak france superteam and humiliated the portuguese in the final. Will never be repeated
Billgun@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Although I disagree with the guy you are replying to, I'll let you know that the xG were not how you imagine them. There was a greek sport "journalist" who went through the matches and came to the conclusion that the xG goals would be consistent with the scoring.
I'm linking the video and, although it is in greek, you can go to the photos inside the video which show where the shots were taken from in some of the matches.
Edit: Formatting
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We beat an insane portugal superteam at home twice, beat the spanish superteam, beat an insane czech republic team, destroyed peak france superteam and humiliated the portuguese in the final. Will never be repeated
Billgun@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Although I disagree with the guy you are replying to, I'll let you know that the xG were not how you imagine them. There was a greek sport "journalist" who went through the matches and came to the conclusion that the xG goals would be consistent with the scoring.
I'm linking the video and, although it is in greek, you can go to the photos inside the video which show where the shots were taken from in some of the matches.
Edit: Formatting
innocenceiskinky@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Though I actually thought your victory was nice, it wasn't better. You played horrificly defensive football and if xG would've been a thing back then, everyone would've understood just how lucky you guys got. Literally every single win was outperforming the xG by a spectacular margin.
Impressive, sure. Better? nah...
MrGestja@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
But the Netherlands has too
Tomatosoup7@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
So have we
Gollem265@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
🍼
BohRhapTrap@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Cry some more my child.
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Im not crying you will get destroyed at the euros as always. Loser nation
0lle@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
You're crying so hard you'll be causing a flood for us, please stop
Rikkertsalami@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol, enjoy your permaban
0lle@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
You're crying so hard you'll be causing a flood for us, please stop
dekbeast_hilbertini@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
At least we qualified for it
Rikkertsalami@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol, enjoy your permaban
BohRhapTrap@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It's okay if you cry a little more. You're emotions are understandable.
BohRhapTrap@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It's okay if you cry a little more. You're emotions are understandable.
dekbeast_hilbertini@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
At least we qualified for it
chilipeper08@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Because the “country” that shines laser pens in the faces of players isn’t a loser nation? Go and eat some tzatziki dumbass.
chilipeper08@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Because the “country” that shines laser pens in the faces of players isn’t a loser nation? Go and eat some tzatziki dumbass.
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Soft ass players. U need to learn to play under pressure
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Soft ass players. U need to learn to play under pressure
chilipeper08@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ok but who crumbled in the end? Enjoy the play offs κώλος
chilipeper08@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ok but who crumbled in the end? Enjoy the play offs κώλος
AEKAntistash@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Some of your people came here in 2018 and the rest is history. Such a shame we have become much more hospitable nowadays.
Ryzen57@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Im not crying you will get destroyed at the euros as always. Loser nation
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol, should have been another pen in the end
Tygret@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Go cry in Play-Offs
ImNotSenadLulic@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
😂
Myth-Man1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I think he's Greek you guys (μαλάκα)
xdbartxd@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
meanwhile greece hasnt qualified for nearly 10 years
Myth-Man1@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I think he's Greek you guys (μαλάκα)
COMExANDxGETxIT@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Go buy some more laser pens to compensate for all the pens your team gives away.
Djenzer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fuck off with your laser pens
Gollem265@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
🍼
ImNotSenadLulic@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
😂
KingKingsons@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Terrible match, but the result is all that matters.
MrLogicWins@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Without Frenkie and Gakpo and (less so) depay, de ligt, lang... was hard to expect much more
mattijn13@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Streep eronder en door
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Oranje inwisselen voor groen, ik ben weer een Springboks fan.
Darrylweezy@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
That ref was on drugs.
Alive-Ad-4164@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Right at the death
Follow_The_Lore@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ngl I actually like we won this way. Will make the Greek fans even more annoyed, deserved for the laser pens.
fullsenditt@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Sorry to break It up for you but some people need to realize that Greeks dont care about shit and they will bring lasers to their volleyball/football/basketball matches no matter what happens until the end of the time. Call It "culture" , "rude" or "unsportsmanlike" It's your choice but they will never learn/change. I just mention It so you don't need to waste your energy ever again to that matter and restore It for something better
ifoundmynewnickname@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Reijnders was fantastic before he was moved up, Hartman best player on the field.
Simons and Weghorst really bad.
MadsNN06@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
reijnders is always fantastic
Belocity@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Simons wasn’t useful, but also wasn’t useless. The moment he got taken off we immediately lacked any form of forward progression
Belocity@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Simons wasn’t useful, but also wasn’t useless. The moment he got taken off we immediately lacked any form of forward progression
Elsubmarino14@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol @ the Simons mention. You probably also booed Ziyech when he was playing for you because (despite the many chances he created an goals he was involved in) he lost the ball sometimes?
MadsNN06@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
reijnders is always fantastic
DashboardNight@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
That ref missing the first half pen and pen in the last minute of the game is outrageous.
ReMarkable91@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Missing? He literally looked at the video...
DashboardNight@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Must’ve been blinded by all the laser pointers.
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Getting 4 penalties would've been really funny and not entirely undeserved.
StereoZombie@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Fair play to Greece, those long balls in the second half were really scary. Realistically we should have converted some of those chances we had in the first half but luckily we got away with it, as our play today just wasn't good enough.
Hopefully we somehow find a centre forward underneath the floorboards somewhere before the Euros
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We need Zirkzee to have a Fenomeno season
extantfruitfly@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We need Zirkzee to have a Fenomeno season
IIIMilkman_DanIII@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Take Mexx Meerdink, fuck it.
teymon@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I'd like to see Brobbey get another go. He came in when our ball progression was essentially gone with Hartman and wieffer off the pitch and he still gave the lay off for the Dumfries pen and should have gotten another penalty himself. He wasn't stellar but he was definitely better than Weghorst. Or play malen centrally, he was ass on the left.
Sweeply@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hernandez Hernandez least corrupt Spanish referee.
itsreallypouring@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Feel like the 2 pens that the ref didn't give were bigger pens than the one he did give
Five_Fingered_Sloth@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He gave two, but yes, both of those were smaller fouls than the two he didn’t give
itsreallypouring@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah I'm not complaining, just strange all in all
walnood@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
How was it not a third pen at the end?
THJappe@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Hernández Hernández is how, trash ref
Muppetx@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Veerman leuke voetballer voor de Eredivisie maar laten we t daar asjeblieft bij houden. Schouten is de beste middenvelder van PSV.
flabberguested@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
De Veermanhype neemt aparte vormen aan. Tegen Gibraltar mag hij wel spelen, maar wat mij betreft blijft hij verder lekker thuis. Veerman is 24, dus misschien is dit niet zijn plafond, maar ik zie hem niet nog een klasse of twee beter worden.
Muppetx@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Veerman is leuk als ie alle tijd en ruimte krijgt zoals in de Eredivisie. Als ie met zn man mee moet lopen of meters moet maken om meer ruimte voor zichzelf te creëren, wordt t gewoon allemaal wat lastiger. Prima voetballer, maar niet voor het NL elftal.
flabberguested@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Precies, geen topspeler in het moderne voetbal. Wel een balgevoel om je vingers bij af te likken en het is een grappig ventje.
mattijn13@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Absolute dog shit referee tonight
Doge_peer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
WHOOP WHOOP🙌
NicoTheNicoh@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
how was that not a penalty at the end, hernandez is such a useless ref
El_grandepadre@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I've come to the conclusion that watching H^2 ref takes away one year of your lifespan each game.
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Really hope some attacking power comes back next time, this really was bad. 4-3-3 after halftime looked good for 15 minutes, but not that convincing otherwise.
Also, how was that last one not a pen? He clearly clips his leg, did he hit the ball a tiny bit or something?
DrDamnright@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Karma for the laserpointing cunts
xc2215x@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Nice win from the Netherlands. Good to see.
YEEETmeister@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
If the second penalty was a foul, that should have been a second yellow for Pavlidis no?
RN2FL9@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah it's a tactical foul that gets you a yellow anywhere on the pitch, the referee spared him.
Shippior@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Not according to the Hernandez Hernandez rule book. Would be a purple card at most if Pavlidis threw a 180.
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Thank fuck.
Hernandez Hernandez was on something today though. So many dogshit calls. He got like half the corner calls wrong. He gaves us 2 penalties, but ignored two penalty calls that were much more of a pen than 1 of them that was given.
Also ignored VAR twice on those pens, which was fun to see.
windmillmaker_@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Haha ons Virgil niet blij met het veld
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We weren't great, crazy that we legit should've had 4 pens instead of 2. The foul on Brobbey and the guy who dived one ball with his arm first in the first half.
Never let Weghorst take a pen again.
Again, sloppy game but with 4 of our starting 11 out injured we should just be happy we won.
Hollandrock@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
IIRC, if a hand is supporting your weight while falling, it can't be given as a handball. That is presumably the judgement
Hollandrock@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
IIRC, if a hand is supporting your weight while falling, it can't be given as a handball. That is presumably the judgement
BigFatNo@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Still hilarious that the replay just looks like his shoulder and the ball had some magnetic pull
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He clearly moved his entire body and arm towards the ball to block it though. If the rules say that wasn't a pen then the rules suck.
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah but we both know that wasn't the case. He literally lunged at the ball.
JD1337@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah but we both know that wasn't the case. He literally lunged at the ball.
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He clearly moved his entire body and arm towards the ball to block it though. If the rules say that wasn't a pen then the rules suck.
Alia_Gr@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
yea by the current interpretation they can literally act as goalkeepers on low shots
Alia_Gr@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
yea by the current interpretation they can literally act as goalkeepers on low shots
BigFatNo@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Still hilarious that the replay just looks like his shoulder and the ball had some magnetic pull
DutchMadness77@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I'm not sure what Koeman was doing in the second half. First half wasn't exactly totaalvoetbal but we invited the press and had some decent attacks and a missed pen. We didn't have much control at all in the second half and basically had massive gaps between the lines and attackers on an island. Van de Ven at left back meant a few dangerous possession losses in the build up and made their press much more effective. I some some Steijnbal in the end with us spamming long balls on Brobbey with a hopelessly out of form Bergwijn to his left. He obviously did well to win the penalty and we won in the end but it wasn't due to great game management.
gvanmoney@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Man I really hope these lasers don’t become commonplace at matches
AlmostNL@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Do you mean in the eredivisie?
reserveduitser@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What a referee😂.
But at the and a deserved win.
Btw fuck of with your laser lights.
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
2 non-existent penalties awarded, 1 stonewall penalty denied. Somebody give me what the ref is smoking.
AlmostNL@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I don't even know nor care anymore.
We did get those pens because we were in the box so much, it's amazing none of the shots went in throughout the match.
Still fair play, you'll make it through the playoffs, if you keep that up.
AlmostNL@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I don't even know nor care anymore.
We did get those pens because we were in the box so much, it's amazing none of the shots went in throughout the match.
Still fair play, you'll make it through the playoffs, if you keep that up.
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
*2 clear penalties not awarded, 1 of 2 correctly awarded penalties almost overturned by a moronic VAR.
sth-nl@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol should have 4
Theumaz@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What are you smoking?
sth-nl@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Lol should have 4
hetdelaatje@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Didn't see the first one, but the second pen was clear right? How could that not be one
Theumaz@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What are you smoking?
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Evidently something weaker than the ref.
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Evidently something weaker than the ref.
Alia_Gr@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
the first "non-existant" penalty literally prevented a goal that was being scored because he blew the whistle early
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
True but unfortunately irrelevant. It was not a penalty and it was also a mistake to blow the whistle that early.
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It was a foul by Van Dijk. You don't get to play advantage if you are the one comitting the foul afaik
No-Pension-7977@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Well, considering we didnt the penalty with the handball, and didnt get the penalty with the foul on Brobbey, it cancels each other out
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
The only clear out of the 2 is the tackle on brobbey at the end that was not given. And if the previous one is not given, the game never gets into a situation for the one after to take place anyway
ItsYourBoyD@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah and people want 4 or 5 penalties called and reds lol. You won and you’re through. Take it and move on.
Oh well. On to the playoff
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I am Greek, we did not win. The stonewall penalty was the one on Brobbey.
ItsYourBoyD@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I know, I’m Greek too, I’m talking to the Dutch supporters. Crying about lasers and wanting 20 pens called and reds.
They’re the better team, do they really need all the officiating help too in order to win? If they were really dominant, they would have scored from open play.
These teams are a lot closer than people think lol, except one won their euro 40 years ago, and the other won theirs 20 years ago.
No_Presence200@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Are they? Greece were shit in the away game. Lost by a big margin and created next to no chances. Were shit again today. but against a side with like 11 players injured. Creating no chances while needing the win.
ItsYourBoyD@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah because we’ve won something recently lol
All this yapping yet you can’t close out a tournament in modern football 🤷♂️, we have.
Close against the Argentines, but not quite. Close isn’t good enough.
No-Pension-7977@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Whens the last time youve been to a tournament
ItsYourBoyD@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
When’s the last time you’ve won one? You probably weren’t even alive for it. Maybe you can watch the highlights in black and white. I enjoyed ours.
No_Presence200@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
2004 isn’t recent and doesn’t say anything about quality of the teams now. Or recently for that matter.
How embarrassing, we lost against the eventual world champions. You haven’t been good enough to even enter a tournament in almost 10 years. Pipe down
ItsYourBoyD@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
2004 is a lot more recent than the 70s. Germany weren’t fielding 2 different teams in 2004. 21st century against all time greats like CR7, you know, active players.
No, what’s embarrassing is being labelled some footballing super power in the top 10 and being perpetual losers for almost 50 years.
Maybe they’ll give you more pen calls in the tournament for you to win games. We’ll see you there after we beat the Georgians.
reserveduitser@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It doesn’t matter if you have a better team and rules are rules. But at the and it was a deserved win. Good game though.
And yes those people should fuck off with those laser lights.
Agatharchides@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Sorry, I thought your comment referred to me. But dominance on the day or past successes do not matter. If a refereeing decision is wrong, it's just wrong.
ReMarkable91@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
How can that last foul not be a penalty after being checked by the VAR?
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Cause he already gave 2 controversial ones. Even though the last one was the clearest one
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
The 2nd given pen was in no way controversial. Idk why that was even sent to the screen.
GingerPolarBear@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I guess for possible foul by Brobbey a tiny second earlier.
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Brobbey is getting slightly pulled and falls forward. That's not how momentum works. He dove 100%
EasyModeActivist@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Are you talking about the potential pen at the end? Brobbey wasn't fouled for the 0-1, that was Dumfries.
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I'm talking about the scored penalty. I was mistaken on who the dutch player was there
AdminEating_Dragon@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
- AEK's owner should be ashamed of himself for the state of the pitch. This is a brand new stadium, you can't be bothered to have the grass in good condition ?
- The Spanish referee showed why Lahoz was the best Spanish referee for years.
- We played quite well given our lack of talent in many positions, if we were a bit luckier we could have got points today.
- We should be able to beat Kazakhstan at home and then if we are mentally ready, beat Georgia or Luxembourg and make it to the Euro.
PS. I already see comments about the lasers again, so I will post it again, that if there are matches with fans in Greece, there will be lasers. In football, basketball, volleyball, handball, everything. In penalties, free throws, serves...no you can't stop them from having them, in Greece the ultras bring whatever they want inside, the police doesn't do their job, the laws aren't upheld. You would have to either reshape Greek society and institutions or have all matches in Greece without fans. No other solution.
fullsenditt@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What do you mean about lasers blud? 💀 In our gate they opened It 5 minutes before the match because they realized they were too slow for the normal "checking your ticket+checking If you carry anything Illegal". I could have easily see the match without a ticket today. But worse Is I could have been In the stadium with something Illegal and we saw today what happened 😭
Jelmerdts@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Should have had 4 penalties but whatever.
I dont want to see Weghorst in the NT ever again.
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Only 4? It was close to 16 penalties and 9 reds against greece for NL. Disgraceful refereeing
Bartotelli1999@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
ZedGenius@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Bartotelli1999@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
ifoundmynewnickname@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Probably still usefull as a sub tbh. But shouldnt start.
FlupFlup123@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He's one of those momentum footballer's you bring in in the last 15 minutes to annoy the fuck out of everyone and force mistakes with tireless running lol.
Belocity@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It’s just so annoying that his ego makes him throw a massive hissy fit when he isn’t starting. Can’t wait until we have Memphis and Gakpo back
Bust3dGG@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Idk. Not really missing Memphis tbf
windmillmaker_@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I really thought that that last review would’ve been a penalty damn
CymruGolfMadrid@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Definitely a pen, not sure what the ref was smoking.
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It clearly was, clearly takes out Brobbeys's foot first.
Gollem265@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It probably should have been
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ref was power tripping at the end
DeltaWolfPlayer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
everyone i was watching with was confused as fuck why it wasnt given since its such a clear foul
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Ref was power tripping at the end
erikvs2001@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Typical spanish ref against Dutch national team
erikvs2001@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Typical spanish ref against Dutch national team
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He also gave red to the Greek coach for saying "what are you doing this time"
VladPutinOfficial@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
He also gave red to the Greek coach for saying "what are you doing this time"
Gollem265@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It probably should have been
CymruGolfMadrid@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Definitely a pen, not sure what the ref was smoking.
SPLEESH_BOYS@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Insane that it wasn’t a pen tbh, feels like he didn’t want to give another one
SPLEESH_BOYS@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Insane that it wasn’t a pen tbh, feels like he didn’t want to give another one
DeltaWolfPlayer@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
everyone i was watching with was confused as fuck why it wasnt given since its such a clear foul
poklane@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
It clearly was, clearly takes out Brobbeys's foot first.
justforkikkk@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I’m dreaming of a Frenkie-Reijnders midfield
Forgemarine@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
With Gravenberch
zeekoes@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Wouldn't work well. All three are most comfortable deeper in the midfield. Rather have Simons on 10.
Aethien@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
5-3-2, Malen/Gakpo (maybe Depay if he's fit again) up front, De Jong/Reijnders/Simons midfield, we have wingbacks now and plenty CB's. I can see that work.
Forgemarine@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
De Jong loves playing close to the CB's though
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
That’s too much of the same i think
Billion34@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Far too many individual mistakes and we got away with most thanks to the players putting in extra effort and getting into last ditch tackles. The plan was solid, the lads gave everything, Ioannidis ripped apart that Ake bloke, Retsos has a place in my heart for yelling in the face of Brobbey and Vlachodimos can only be assumed has testicles the size of melons. We'll make it through Nations League on March.
May Ronald Koeman manage the Dutch for years to come.
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
We are winning the whole thing!!
RN2FL9@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Netherlands played terrible. Greece had to win but played without any strikers? Referee was trying to be the star of the game and VAR was horrid. Lasers on the players from the stands, the pitch quality was a joke. Everything about this was horrible.
nolesfan2011@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Greece has played this way for a long time
Belocity@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Koeman atm explaining that Weghorst was allowed to take the pen because he is very good at them in training. Like bro maybe that’s cuz our goalies aren’t good at penalty stopping in the first place + less pressure during a training. Please just let guys take pens that are used to taking them in big, ACTUAL matches
petnarwhal@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
I would be fine with Reijnders too tbh, guy seems cool as can be under pressure.
Alpaje@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
laser pen? wtf is greece fan doing in the stadium with laser?
RuubGullit@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
What is this 2003
Morganelefay@alien.top · 1 pts · 2y
Same thing as at AEK - Ajax.