However, in gen1 water moves were special. Gyarados has atk of 125 and special of 100 in gen1. This means that hyper beam would do slightly more damage(~1%) than hydro pump.
I see, Pokemon showdown is assuming that you get the get the stat increases from battling to 100. My calculation is without these stat increases. Like leveling with rare candy. Those 64 points make the difference.
In gen 2 they split special into satk and sdef. Gyarados has 60 satk and 125 atk. Hyper beam being a normal move uses atk in gens 1-3. Hydro pump just gets worse. I doubt the way they changed stat calculations makes up for 65 attack power. Looking at this in Pokemon showdown I think there is something going on with these damage calcs. My guess is damage has a cap somewhere and these moves are hitting it before weakness/resistance multipliers are applied.
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spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 2y
Now do it in reverse:
Pidgey Lv 100
Guarados Lv 20
Pidgey used Peck
Omgarm@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 2y
0- Atk Pidgey Peck vs. Lvl 20 0 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 72-85 (97.2 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
With neutral natures and no EVs it is a OHKO however.
Rin@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com probably
JPAKx4@lemmy.sdf.org · 21 pts · 2y
I've been playing Cobblemon, and they don't sugar coat it. If you kill a wild Pokemon they often drop some kind of meat
blindbunny@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 2y
How have they not gotten sued to oblivion?
Zortrox@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 2y
Not just that, but there are great feint/death animations when you win a battle!
drislands@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What platform is that on? And is it any good?
Lemongrab@lemmy.one · 3 pts · 2y
Minecraft i think
OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 2y
Poor killing move choice... a hydro pump would do more or a adamant waterfall would do even more!
Lizardon@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Not if it’s Gen 1
OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 2y
stab existed Gen 1?
Hyper beam base gen 1 150 power Hydro pump bade gen 1 120 power stab X 1.5 180 power
MysticalSpoon@kbin.social · 5 pts · 2y
However, in gen1 water moves were special. Gyarados has atk of 125 and special of 100 in gen1. This means that hyper beam would do slightly more damage(~1%) than hydro pump.
OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
Used a Calc still Hydro pump
MysticalSpoon@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
I see, Pokemon showdown is assuming that you get the get the stat increases from battling to 100. My calculation is without these stat increases. Like leveling with rare candy. Those 64 points make the difference.
Lizardon@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Ok but what if it’s Gen 2?
MysticalSpoon@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
In gen 2 they split special into satk and sdef. Gyarados has 60 satk and 125 atk. Hyper beam being a normal move uses atk in gens 1-3. Hydro pump just gets worse. I doubt the way they changed stat calculations makes up for 65 attack power. Looking at this in Pokemon showdown I think there is something going on with these damage calcs. My guess is damage has a cap somewhere and these moves are hitting it before weakness/resistance multipliers are applied.
Holzkohlen@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y
He created a quasar
Sheeple@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Light that burns the sky moment
Lamedonyx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I miss Brawl In The Family...