For non North-Americans it is, Trump tried a coup in Bolivia, Obama created the civil war in Libia and the war of Yemen, Biden is putting gasoline on the Palestine, and Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan
Well, I don’t really believe anyone’s numbers. BOTH sides of the Gazrael coin are fundi assholes, and will say anything to get international support (good luck).
As far as waging war. I mean, I know it’s a lot more complicated than “religion” but it’s basically a religious war… and I just have no sympathy for that. People die when you fight. Don’t fucking fight.
Ukraine isn't the one who wagered for war. Biden is saying this is the price of instigating the fight, ignoring the very complicated and nuanced history. I don't agree with him at all but he'ssaying Palestinians punched first and that's what they get, which yeah doesn't apply to Ukraine at all.
I'm not arguing my dude. It's called responding ;)
I see what I see from his comments, which is ; Innocent Muslim/brown people being killed is the price of war meanwhile innocent Ukrainian/white people being killed is a tragedy and international war crime that must be answered for.
I really don't expect anything else from a US president on this issue. This is coming from a white westerner, as well. I just hate the hypocrisy of it all.
“Obviously, statistics from Gaza are subject to bias, so we can’t use them to determine when the number of dead Palestinians has reached a sufficient level. Perhaps when the fog of war has cleared, we’ll realize Israel has killed more Gazans than was necessary, but now is not the time to ease up.”
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mysoulishome@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 2y
When people try to tell me the democrats are too Liberal/left wing/progressive…yeah no, I wish they were.
angrymouse@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
They can be diferent in the internal afairs, the external relationship of US were always colonialist, and is not from today.
ladananton450@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I often like to think democrats are just republicans with a rainbow coat
angrymouse@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
For non North-Americans it is, Trump tried a coup in Bolivia, Obama created the civil war in Libia and the war of Yemen, Biden is putting gasoline on the Palestine, and Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan
NightAuthor@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y
Buuut… how far is this from what he actually said? I’m sure it’s pretty close.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
What did he say?
NightAuthor@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
Ok, fine, after a quick look at news, these are the two main things said.
In regard to the 7000+ dead reported by the hamas run health department:
Also:
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 2y
He's still calling it a war, I see. What an odd way to describe the indiscriminate bombing of innocent men women and children.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
Well, I don’t really believe anyone’s numbers. BOTH sides of the Gazrael coin are fundi assholes, and will say anything to get international support (good luck).
As far as waging war. I mean, I know it’s a lot more complicated than “religion” but it’s basically a religious war… and I just have no sympathy for that. People die when you fight. Don’t fucking fight.
Ordoabchao@kbin.social · -3 pts · 2y
Is how I read this statement. I am pretty certain he hasn't taken this stance on Ukrainian innocents being killed...
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Ukraine isn't the one who wagered for war. Biden is saying this is the price of instigating the fight, ignoring the very complicated and nuanced history. I don't agree with him at all but he'ssaying Palestinians punched first and that's what they get, which yeah doesn't apply to Ukraine at all.
Ordoabchao@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Palestine wasn't the one who wagered for war. It was Hamas. Unless Hamas is now Palestine, and nobody told me?
So...Yea. Awkward.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Do I look like Biden lol, go argue with him. He's the one who says Hamas and Palestine are the same. I also am not aware if he told you or not.
Ordoabchao@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
I'm not arguing my dude. It's called responding ;)
I see what I see from his comments, which is ; Innocent Muslim/brown people being killed is the price of war meanwhile innocent Ukrainian/white people being killed is a tragedy and international war crime that must be answered for.
I really don't expect anything else from a US president on this issue. This is coming from a white westerner, as well. I just hate the hypocrisy of it all.
Melkath@kbin.social · -10 pts · 2y
I dont care. Trump was bad, but Biden is also bad.
I voted for Biden because I got swept up in "lesser evil" rhetoric.
I wish I didn't cast a vote, and next time I won't.
It simply does not matter.
The Party is going to do what what The Party does.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 2y
Thanks for helping end democracy, women's rights, LGBT+ rights, etc. in the US.
Melkath@kbin.social · -1 pts · 2y
The fascism that is consuming both sides of The Party is already doing that.
I am simply choosing not to be part of it.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 2y
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Hint: if you post taxes, you're part of it.
Melkath@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
When a candidate worth voting for presents themselves, I will vote for them.
Bernie, AOC, and Katie Porter aren't going to be on the presidential ballot, so I won't be casting a presidential vote.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Your feelings are irrelevant regarding facts.
NightAuthor@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Your facts are irrelevant regarding feelings.
::: spoiler .
Boom, got eem. Jk, ily. Hope your day is going well. :::
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Generally, no.
If you are someone I care about, and as such your feelings are something I care about, then you're partially right.
can@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y