What stopped working:
- GzDoom (native, black screen after choosing .wad)
- Orcs Must Die 1 & 2 (proton, either doesn't launch at all, or launches with severe graphical issues such as the menu and buttons missing or the whole thing being pink and green)
- serious sam tfe, tse; painkiller black (wine via either bottles or pol, extreme speedup every 5 seconds)
- luxor 3 (bottles, crashes on launch)
- hotline miami 2 (proton, crash on launch)
- lego indy 2 (bottles, sound effects at 150% loudness)
most of these worked previously, but seemingly broke out of nowhere, unless driver or kernel updates wrecked thwm, but if that is the case i haven't the faintest clue on how to troubleshoot that besides trying every previous kernel i can still download.
Device: Legion 5-15, 16gb ram, radeon 5 4600, nvidia rtx 3060 mobile, newest version of mint and newest LTS kernel. LUKS partition. I'll add more info when i get home.
So, tl;dr:
- how to troubleshoot proton games
- how to troubleshoot wine games in bottles and pol
- how to prevent games breaking out of nowhere in the future
26 Comments
signor@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Have you rebooted your system or tried selecting a previous kernel version upon boot to see if the problem remains?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
GZDoom and Orcs Must Die 1 work now, everything else still the same
redcalcium@lemmy.institute · 4 pts · 2y
Instead of guessing, looking at the log might help. Launch the game with
PROTON_LOG=1 %command%set in "Set Launch Options" setting in the game properties. The log file will appear on your home directory.dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Magica is claiming an issue with VCRedist, Orcs Must Die 2 doesn't close on its own so no log, Serious sams and painkiller don't show any problems. The rest isn't using proton.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute · 3 pts · 2y
It's a long shot, but sometimes when I have issues with proton which I can't figure out, switching from Wayland to X11 (or vice versa) magically fixed it.
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Nope.
Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de · 4 pts · 2y
Thanks for the great and detailled report. Here's an upvote for you :)
Maybe you can try another prefix, like using Wine/ Proton 7.x instead of the current 8.x. Or try the GE-versions.
That's what helped me the most so far, but I didn't have many issues by now.
Also, those glitches sound like a faulty GPU or driver. Maybe try a live USB and launch a game from that with another distro like Fedora?
Have you checked out ProtonDB if the games work OOTB or require some tweaks?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
Thx.
Changing prefixes either does nothing, or makes it worse which would be the case for the ones that do start.
Probably not a GPU issue, as these glitches only occurvin the listed games.
Regarding protondb (an winedb too i guess) the games are, at worst, silver rated.
iamak@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 2y
I think mint has timeshift enabled by default. Try going back to when the games worked and figure out what change caused the gamss to break?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
didn't make em often enough, sadly
Perroboc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
How do you handle which GPU is used in which game? I would guess you have an AMD iGPU, and a Nvidia GPU for games, right? Maybe something along those lines got updated?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
That's correct, but i mostly let the laptop handle it, unless i know for a fact that a game needs/doesn't need the N GPU, in which case i either manually switch it over or (and this is the case for wine apps through bottles) i configure the program to only use the iGPU
Perroboc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What are you using to switch the GPU? Have you tried alternatives? EnvyControl for example.
Also, have you checked if you’re using ONLY Radeon-Vulkan for the AMDGPU, and not AMDVLK also?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
No clue, since mint cinnamon (afaik) doesn't have a GUI for managing gpu drivers i don't know how to approach it.
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
Can you simplfy the issue by disabling the nvidia in bios?
Sentau@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y
DId your Nvidia drivers update recently? If yes try the older Nvidia driver
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
nope, they didn't
ad_on_is@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Can you pinpoint what you did to your system before? Did you do a system update? Did you move game files around? Did you add any repositories trying to install something that also updated other dependencies, or alike?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
At most i updated my system and kernel, didn't fiddle with anything else
ad_on_is@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I'm not familiar with mint, but maybe you can see whether you can easily downgrade to the previous version you had. And hold off on the updates until a fix is published for the broken stuff.
But before that, take a look at the mint communities and see whether it's a known issue and whether there is a manual intervention needed to fix it. Something like "newest update broke some proton games", etc.
Bo7a@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y
Did you move files to an NTFS shared drive? Proton + ntfs is flaky as all hell in my experience, and the problems are impossible to troubleshoot.
dynamo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
No, the drive has been ext4 encrypted with LUKS from the start.
Poe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Try using an older version of proton?
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
didn't work
nfsu2@feddit.cl · 1 pts · 2y
That must suck, I hope you get your answer man.
dynamo@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
I think i'll take the opportunity and try Debian, maybe PoPOs