Everything works if you know it well enough. But what I remember annoying me with php most was the naming convention mess, array_search, count, strlen, etc.
I think the PHP maintainers recognize that drawback and are working/have done a lot of work to fix conventions. I remember having to fix my code the last time I updated to the latest PHP version because they changed the arguments to a function call to be more in line with the arguments for other similar functions.
After like a 10 years of coding in everything except PHP I actually started missing PHP. Everything is so bloated nowadays and all the shit that gets thrown towards the PHP is mostly just a BS from those that either never coded in PHP or stopped coding before PHP 5.6.
Modern PHP shits all over the PHP v3, v4, v5 days of yore.
Anyone making new projects from scratch is living in a land of bliss while those working in projects/frameworks that started in the days of yore are having experiences across the whole spectrum of, "Wow, I sure am glad we migrated to modern php" to "please kill me, I'm in so much pain".
Is php worth hating? I did some in college and didn't care for it. I don't remember exactly why though. I built a POC super simple MVC framework and found it really easy to implement. But then I moved on to other stuff (java/ruby/python/js) and promptly forgot about it.
23 Comments
TeaHands@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 3y
I still code with PHP.
Come at me.
gkd@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Don’t worry I have your back. We’ll take ‘em together.
akariii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3y
why?
carbonara@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3y
Still waiting for anybody to explain me why I shouldn’t write my backend in php
disenchanted@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Everything works if you know it well enough. But what I remember annoying me with php most was the naming convention mess,
array_search,count,strlen, etc.duncesplayed@lemmy.one · 5 pts · 3y
\except $for $the $annoying $syntax $and $bad $function $naming, $it's $actually $turned $into $a $fairly $decent $language->
SurpriseWaterfall@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 3y
I think the PHP maintainers recognize that drawback and are working/have done a lot of work to fix conventions. I remember having to fix my code the last time I updated to the latest PHP version because they changed the arguments to a function call to be more in line with the arguments for other similar functions.
evirac@vlemmy.net · 2 pts · 3y
leaving a . so i know as well
pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org · 1 pts · 3y
It's not trendy, and not forcing you to write properly your code.
tuto193@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 3y
kbin is written in PHP ;)
Rolando@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Upvoted and boosted--- oh wait, I'm on Lemmy! :)
Loce@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 3y
After like a 10 years of coding in everything except PHP I actually started missing PHP. Everything is so bloated nowadays and all the shit that gets thrown towards the PHP is mostly just a BS from those that either never coded in PHP or stopped coding before PHP 5.6.
spartanatreyu@programming.dev · 5 pts · 3y
Modern PHP shits all over the PHP v3, v4, v5 days of yore.
Anyone making new projects from scratch is living in a land of bliss while those working in projects/frameworks that started in the days of yore are having experiences across the whole spectrum of, "Wow, I sure am glad we migrated to modern php" to "please kill me, I'm in so much pain".
Ransom@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 3y
I started with javascript and was reluctant to try php because of what I read online. Now Laravel is all I want to develop with
CriticalSilence@feddit.de · 3 pts · 3y
soloner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
Is php worth hating? I did some in college and didn't care for it. I don't remember exactly why though. I built a POC super simple MVC framework and found it really easy to implement. But then I moved on to other stuff (java/ruby/python/js) and promptly forgot about it.
CriticalSilence@feddit.de · 1 pts · 3y
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 3y
PHP has lasted 30 years while newer frameworks and languages from tech companies barely last 5.
Eurobae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
When I was studying I used php but not a lot so I don't really have an opinion for it, why the "hate" for it? Coming from someone who uses React a lot
akariii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 3y
I don't use it a lot myself but it has a fame of being insecure and badly designed as a language
Yearly1845@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 3y
Eurobae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
When I get some time I want to try Laravel
bappity@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 3y
one of my work's systems runs entirely on PHP 😩 luckily it's mostly phased out but I still have to experience hell every now and then
karlthemailman@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3y
Modern php may not be so bad, but if you are supporting a legacy system on a legacy version of php, it sucks.