It was only a matter of time that we saw a TechTake from this guy. I'm sorry to inflict Peterson on y'all, but this was too funny not to post.
Moore's law predicts life emerged 5 billion years before the Earth formed
https://archive.ph/2023.12.21-205409/https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1737375623826620494
21 Comments
locallynonlinear@awful.systems · 15 pts · 2y
It's hilarious to me how unnecessarily complicated invoking moore's law is to say anything..
With Moore's Law: "Ok ok ok, so like, imagine that this highly abstract, broad process over huge time period, is actually the same as manufacturing this very specific thing over a small time period. Hmm, it doesn't fit. ok, let's normalize the timelines with this number. Why? Uhhh because you know, this metric doubles as well. Ok. Now let's just put these things together into our machine and LOOK it doesn't match our empirical observations, obviously I've discovered something!"
Without Moore's Law: "When you reduce the dimensions of any system in nature, flattening their interactions, you find exponential processes everywhere. QED."
dgerard@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y
it's like being surprised at finding S-curves
(e.g. Moore's Law)
swlabr@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y
blakestacey@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y
For a nondenominational holiday miracle, archive,ph is working for me today. In case it stops again, here's a nitter link.
bitofhope@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y
Thank you, I meant to include a nitter link but forgot.
swlabr@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y
Moore’s Three Laws:
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y
The abstract from the actual article sounds like SEO speech at times, what is this mess
dgerard@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
even ChatGPT writes better than that
Dkarma@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Jordan Peterson and his fans are fucking idiots 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y
Does he think neurons are just squishy transistors or...?
dmention7@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
I'm not going to inflict a JP video on myself, so maybe someone else can help me with the math. Moore's law says the number of transistors in an IC doubles every 2 years. Earth is roughly 5 billion years old, so there have been roughly 5 billion doublings since his proposed time that life emerged. 2^5,000,000,000 is an absolutely unfathomable number compared to... anything really! So what am I missing here?
And looking at it the other way, if a "law" that has existed for only a matter of decades is being extrapolated back for billions of years, and is only off by a factor of 3-ish... that's pretty fucking solid endorsement of said law!
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y
The authors did not use Moore's law or transistors at all. They just thought it was a nifty idea so mentioned it bunches when talking about exponential growth or something.
Also I'm not sure I totally trust these authors after glancing over the paper, they seem a little too enthralled with the idea of alien DNA versus other possibilities like "Moore's law" not applying in the first place.
Also the paper is a decade old.
jonhendry@awful.systems · 4 pts · 2y
And redolent of 'emerita disease' although I don't think the authors have technically achieved that honor.
gerikson@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y
JFC what did I just read
BernieDoesIt@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
Reading was the first mistake.
Soyweiser@awful.systems · 1 pts · 2y
roaminchemicals@mastodon.social · 4 pts · 2y
@Soyweiser @bitofhope He was extrapolating lobster behaviour to humans before that whole mess. I think he might just be that dumb.
Soyweiser@awful.systems · 3 pts · 2y
Yeah and speculating like I did isn't nice, got rid of the message.
GCanuck@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 2y
There has to be more to this nonsense. This makes no sense, and while I don’t agree with a lot of what this dude says, he’s not a bumbling idiot who would conflate a law about computing power with evolution.
blakestacey@awful.systems · 23 pts · 2y
Counterpoint: he is in fact a bumbling idiot
self@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y
what specifically about Dr Jordan B Peterson gave you the impression he wasn’t an absolute dumbass grifter? cause as someone who’s been unwillingly exposed to way too much content from shithead right-wing grifters, this sounds exactly like the type of fucking nonsense Peterson would post to make a stupid point on a topic he doesn’t know anything about
dgerard@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y
no no, i would give Peterson full points for being a dumbass here, because the original is (a) ten years old (b) Petersonian in its stupidity https://phys.org/news/2013-04-law-life-began-earth.html