I also would like the ability for discussion posts. Sometimes it is relevant to multiple communities who probably do not have that much user overlap. Going back into my account to find the old post so I can copy/paste the title and content is not that onerous for one post on my computer, but it's more onerous when I use my cellphone to do this. Or if I have a lot of things I'd like to post and am trying to schedule them for the future in one big session now.
Or if I use the link strategy as described in other comments here, simply linking to my first post, would PieFed users in both communities see the comments from the other post?
Interesting read. Probably accessible to people who are new to systems thinking! A lot of it defines stuff I learned in one of my first systems thinking classes, and just applies it.
Shame is usually deployed when someone “should already know better” and usually does not accompany an explanation, unless the shamer is feeling instructive.
Used to lurk in communities online that mocked others(' behavior). Sometimes, the "wow what a worthless human being, the world would be better off if they weren't here" comments also add "couldn't be bothered to [do good thing X], what a [bad trait Y]" or "what kind of monster does [bad thing X], how [bad trait Y] of them." Socially inept teenage me found this very instructive on what was acceptable and what was not, especially since I was inadvertently provided the why. (I avoid these types of communities now as a hopefully more-well-adjusted adult.) People can absolutely use their words to explain why something is shameful... at least when they are pretty sure everyone else is on their side, and the person being shamed won't be able to retaliate (I am sure whoever is filmed for r/noahgettheboat isn't aware they were posted on Reddit) or will be downvoted a lot if they try to defend themselves, whether justifiably or not (people judged assholes on r/AmITheAsshole).
I am a Piefed user. My default settings auto-hide things downvoted by a certain threshold. I have notice that this by default hides a lot of bigotry or cruelty from me, so I don't bother changing the setting that collapses replies downvoted past a certain threshold. I think a lot of other are the same, or they just never change it because a lot of people do not mess with default settings.
I know that some people downvote as a simple dislike button. Alright, irrelevant, I don't care. But I also know that some do it because you broke the norms of the community or the rules or did something mean and cruel. There are enough trolls and dislike-downvoters out there that the most uncontroversial and on-topic post will still get downvotes. 10 downvotes to 200 upvotes is nothing to worry about. But 20 downvotes to 20 upvotes? Hmm, did I just post an unpopular thing and so I can ignore the downvotes, or did I make a big faux pas and was 1) unintentionally but unfortunately bigoted 2) cruel to another user 3) breaking a community norm/rule I failed to notice 4) perceived as spamming/self-promoing/LLM output (I write my em dashes with my own two hands on my keyboard) 5) anything else that people give deserved downvotes for because you're mucking up the discussion? Time to do some self-examination. There is noise in downvotes, but there's some meaningful signal too.
And the people who seem too sensitive about downvotes might be picking up on the signal, going "what did I do? I didn't do anything wrong, why are you mad at me?" and getting upset over that. I can certainly understand where they might be coming from if they poured their heart out and got a bunch of unexpected downvotes. Or if they are having a really rough day or something. "Is my picture of a pear really that offensive that people would downvote it? Or did I just get my post collapsed and hidden from everyone in !pears or !photography because enough people on All didn't like it, figured that downvote = dislike, and hit the downvote button? Man, (assuming !pears and !photography are moderately active) having the reasonable expectation that people would see and interact with my post, but having that frustrated because it is auto-hidden as if it were spam sure is frustrating." And if this is one of your first posts, at least on Piefed, I think if you get enough downvotes you might get marked with two exclamation points by your username for lots of downvotes. Kind of a caution sign, controversial content or spam or cruel or something. Nobody wants to be slapped with the "take care around this person" sign for doing nothing wrong but posting something the hivemind dislikes but that didn't actually do anything harmful beyond make someone look at a picture they thought was ugly.
I do not care about the fake internet points, but I do care about the consequences voting has on whether your post will get seen or not, and about the humans trying, in some small way, to judge my post through those votes in case I have actually done something objectionable.
As a huge hater of video when I could just see a perfectly good text article with pictures or GIFs, knitting is one area where I often find I need to see a video. Seconded.
This is the home of the Tiny Awards, which, since 2023, has celebrated the best of the small, poetic, creative, handmade web.
The Tiny Awards exist because we thought it was important to shine a spotlight on the sorts of personal web projects that tend to get overlooked by more traditional, larger or more commercial awards.
The link is for voting, but it also gives you links to the sites to vote on, so even if you do not want to vote, lots of cool small sites here.
Not mine; but wondering about consolidating !dullsters@dullsters.net and !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world. I personally favor the former because I post there and because I'd feel weird signing up for !dull_mens_club as a woman—I imagine I'm not the only one who would feel that way. Inclusivity is good. Then again I have never been in !dull_mens_club, so… Will probably make an actual post for it here later.
!blood_donors@healthy.community is still mostly me yelling into the void that I accomplished a donation and feeling guilty because it looks so much like humble bragging. But what the hell else would I post? People sometimes comment a thank you, and I wonder how much is because people on stuff like Mastodon are seeing my post since I ensure they are hashtagged with #blooddonors and similar tags (thanks PieFed). I miss r/blooddonors. I seem to remember an inactive community for blood donors at one point and might look into consolidation too.
Might be worth sending a request to be made mod there, unless you want very different rules (in which case probably better to have two different communities if the current people subbed are not okay with what your new rules would be), or to contribute to quokk.au over blahaj.zone
Thanks for this! I'm usually not the type to search others' posts. I feel creepy doing that. But my own? Yeah. I mostly post to !NiceMemes here, and being able to search up what I posted in the past to make sure I'm not just reposting something I already did and forgot about is helpful. Also helpful for if I randomly remembered a meme I posted and wanted to retrieve it for a friend.
Also, community-specific rules. What one user considers "trash" might be allowed or welcomed in the community; but these drive-by voters would vote it down. (Of course, not any different from doing the exact same if they sorted by New and scrolled now.) Or what one user considers good, but is disallowed in the community, but gets heavily upvoted anyways (which I assume is because of drive-by voting) before a mod cleans it up, if at all. I see the latter decently often.
Usually people posting politics, political snark, or ragebait (whether posts or as comments) in communities that have rules against it, getting upvotes because it agrees with the Fediverse hivemind (and to be fair, I fit into the hivemind very well, except for the part where I do not want to see these political and cultural viewpoints I agree with brought up everywhere all the time), despite being inappropriate in the community, probably because drive-by voters largely do not read the community's rules.
Bringing up depressing real-world stuff in !nicememes in the comments ¬_¬
I also would like the ability for discussion posts. Sometimes it is relevant to multiple communities who probably do not have that much user overlap. Going back into my account to find the old post so I can copy/paste the title and content is not that onerous for one post on my computer, but it's more onerous when I use my cellphone to do this. Or if I have a lot of things I'd like to post and am trying to schedule them for the future in one big session now.
Or if I use the link strategy as described in other comments here, simply linking to my first post, would PieFed users in both communities see the comments from the other post?
Interesting read. Probably accessible to people who are new to systems thinking! A lot of it defines stuff I learned in one of my first systems thinking classes, and just applies it.
Used to lurk in communities online that mocked others(' behavior). Sometimes, the "wow what a worthless human being, the world would be better off if they weren't here" comments also add "couldn't be bothered to [do good thing X], what a [bad trait Y]" or "what kind of monster does [bad thing X], how [bad trait Y] of them." Socially inept teenage me found this very instructive on what was acceptable and what was not, especially since I was inadvertently provided the why. (I avoid these types of communities now as a hopefully more-well-adjusted adult.) People can absolutely use their words to explain why something is shameful... at least when they are pretty sure everyone else is on their side, and the person being shamed won't be able to retaliate (I am sure whoever is filmed for r/noahgettheboat isn't aware they were posted on Reddit) or will be downvoted a lot if they try to defend themselves, whether justifiably or not (people judged assholes on r/AmITheAsshole).
I am a Piefed user. My default settings auto-hide things downvoted by a certain threshold. I have notice that this by default hides a lot of bigotry or cruelty from me, so I don't bother changing the setting that collapses replies downvoted past a certain threshold. I think a lot of other are the same, or they just never change it because a lot of people do not mess with default settings.
I know that some people downvote as a simple dislike button. Alright, irrelevant, I don't care. But I also know that some do it because you broke the norms of the community or the rules or did something mean and cruel. There are enough trolls and dislike-downvoters out there that the most uncontroversial and on-topic post will still get downvotes. 10 downvotes to 200 upvotes is nothing to worry about. But 20 downvotes to 20 upvotes? Hmm, did I just post an unpopular thing and so I can ignore the downvotes, or did I make a big faux pas and was 1) unintentionally but unfortunately bigoted 2) cruel to another user 3) breaking a community norm/rule I failed to notice 4) perceived as spamming/self-promoing/LLM output (I write my em dashes with my own two hands on my keyboard) 5) anything else that people give deserved downvotes for because you're mucking up the discussion? Time to do some self-examination. There is noise in downvotes, but there's some meaningful signal too.
And the people who seem too sensitive about downvotes might be picking up on the signal, going "what did I do? I didn't do anything wrong, why are you mad at me?" and getting upset over that. I can certainly understand where they might be coming from if they poured their heart out and got a bunch of unexpected downvotes. Or if they are having a really rough day or something. "Is my picture of a pear really that offensive that people would downvote it? Or did I just get my post collapsed and hidden from everyone in !pears or !photography because enough people on All didn't like it, figured that downvote = dislike, and hit the downvote button? Man, (assuming !pears and !photography are moderately active) having the reasonable expectation that people would see and interact with my post, but having that frustrated because it is auto-hidden as if it were spam sure is frustrating." And if this is one of your first posts, at least on Piefed, I think if you get enough downvotes you might get marked with two exclamation points by your username for lots of downvotes. Kind of a caution sign, controversial content or spam or cruel or something. Nobody wants to be slapped with the "take care around this person" sign for doing nothing wrong but posting something the hivemind dislikes but that didn't actually do anything harmful beyond make someone look at a picture they thought was ugly.
I do not care about the fake internet points, but I do care about the consequences voting has on whether your post will get seen or not, and about the humans trying, in some small way, to judge my post through those votes in case I have actually done something objectionable.
Thanks for introducing me to that song!
The animation feels nostalgic. Reminded of some edutainment cartoons I'd watch as a kid.
Glad to hear, I was planning on scheduling my own soon.
As a huge hater of video when I could just see a perfectly good text article with pictures or GIFs, knitting is one area where I often find I need to see a video. Seconded.
!dullsters@dullsters.net might like this
Thank you for your service!
That's super cool. Never associated knitting with more utility wear in my head, so it's interesting to see knitting used to make something like this.
For context:
The link is for voting, but it also gives you links to the sites to vote on, so even if you do not want to vote, lots of cool small sites here.
Not mine; but wondering about consolidating !dullsters@dullsters.net and !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world. I personally favor the former because I post there and because I'd feel weird signing up for !dull_mens_club as a woman—I imagine I'm not the only one who would feel that way. Inclusivity is good. Then again I have never been in !dull_mens_club, so… Will probably make an actual post for it here later.
!blood_donors@healthy.community is still mostly me yelling into the void that I accomplished a donation and feeling guilty because it looks so much like humble bragging. But what the hell else would I post? People sometimes comment a thank you, and I wonder how much is because people on stuff like Mastodon are seeing my post since I ensure they are hashtagged with #blooddonors and similar tags (thanks PieFed). I miss r/blooddonors. I seem to remember an inactive community for blood donors at one point and might look into consolidation too.
I hope !transmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone has seen this
Oh man Shimejis! I remember these from DeviantArt so many years ago... could you crosspost this to !smallweb@lemmy.cafe?
I count in groups of (2/3/4) stitches and push them down the needle once they're counted so I can try to keep track. And this still happens to me!
Might be worth sending a request to be made mod there, unless you want very different rules (in which case probably better to have two different communities if the current people subbed are not okay with what your new rules would be), or to contribute to quokk.au over blahaj.zone
Thanks for this! I'm usually not the type to search others' posts. I feel creepy doing that. But my own? Yeah. I mostly post to !NiceMemes here, and being able to search up what I posted in the past to make sure I'm not just reposting something I already did and forgot about is helpful. Also helpful for if I randomly remembered a meme I posted and wanted to retrieve it for a friend.
Thanks as always for developing PieFed!
Also, community-specific rules. What one user considers "trash" might be allowed or welcomed in the community; but these drive-by voters would vote it down. (Of course, not any different from doing the exact same if they sorted by New and scrolled now.) Or what one user considers good, but is disallowed in the community, but gets heavily upvoted anyways (which I assume is because of drive-by voting) before a mod cleans it up, if at all. I see the latter decently often.
Usually people posting politics, political snark, or ragebait (whether posts or as comments) in communities that have rules against it, getting upvotes because it agrees with the Fediverse hivemind (and to be fair, I fit into the hivemind very well, except for the part where I do not want to see these political and cultural viewpoints I agree with brought up everywhere all the time), despite being inappropriate in the community, probably because drive-by voters largely do not read the community's rules.
Bringing up depressing real-world stuff in !nicememes in the comments ¬_¬
I know my local library has one; I was surprised when I learned this.
UBO is so so helpful.