GottaKnowYourCHKN

u/GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world
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E: Hah! You're fine. It's night where I am so you actually caught me when I was online. Don't ever apologize for just not responding to a comment. Life is way more important than some random (i.e: me) on a forum.

I totally understand what you're saying, but I think it's far more complicated. None of this rhetoric is about protecting women. The root of it is homophobia, pure and simple. The only reason people are talking about it is because it's now a new "political platform" you can rile people up with.

Trans women haven't taken over women's sports. There are no trans women who are playing in the WNBA or NWSL. There are NB folks playing, but as far as I know only one identifies as Non-Binary. Even the Olympics doesn't really have trans women competing and "dominating."

Edit: You're probably not a bad person, you don't seem to be some extremist. It's just instead of acknowledging that the "trans women in sports" thing isn't actually a widespread problem-- it's made into this moral dilemma, as if trans women are only okay if they keep to themselves, don't try and better themselves, don't pursue hobbies and interest (keep in mind, a SMALLLLLLLL fraction of women are even good enough to go pro), then they deserve to exist.

How many trans women have you seen play at the WNBA games you watch/go to?

To be fair, your antidotal evidence about your friends and family don't actually reflect reality. This isn't about "lesbians" feeling safe. Queer women still actually get a lot of pushback just for being gay. The lesbians that get LESS are the white and typically femme ones. The ones who aren't white or have more muscle get called men. Even the straight ones do. Serena Williams. Illona Maher.

People don't give a fuck about the WNBA. It's majority black women who are in the league. They all get called men anyway, and then people will also turn around and bash it because it's women's sports.

We also don't seem to make a big deal about trans men in sports. For some reason, it's only women we care about. If women were weaker, how would the trans boxer Patricio Manuel defeat so many cis men? He's a trans man, so shouldn't be constantly be losing?

Why not have categories based off merit? Have specific metrics for a specific sports that actually don't have to do with gender, but ability.

This whole "women are suffering" is just a tool to create trans panic. Women produce testosterone. Some more than some cis men out there.

I just didn't say you were wrong. I say other people DO private jets, are far older than her and have been using them for far longer, and that on the list of folks who are destroying our planet and eating up resources, I really don't think she compares. People just latch on her because she's a wealthy woman.

Tbh, I think we're agreeing but saying it differently. Sorry if I'm coming across harsh at you, but I'm not actually complaining about what YOU said. Mostly venting just to vent by pigging backing off your comment.

on morons · c/lemmyshitpost · 20 pts · 1y

LOL, I get this but let's be real that most WS ARE in fact white people.

This narrative that white people are trying to get traction that it's actually PoC who are the REAL white supremacists is weird and untrue.

Do you have ANY idea how many celebrities do the same? How many CEOs?

People are clamoring on this one thing about her because she's a woman and she's wealthy. I couldn't give two shits about TS, but I can see when people are trying to have SOMETHING on her, when there is nothing really there.

The people I find who act like TS is singlehandedly causing climate change, are also people who actually don't give AF about climate change.

She's a woman. It's just misogyny. She actually does her best to make sure the folks who work for her are taken care of.

The fact that all the wealthiest in the world are mostly awkward straight white dudes who don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves probably hits too close to home.

If not Taylor, it would be Oprah or some shit.

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