When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them.
We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left.
No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud.
This man made thousands of csam images of his step daughter from one source image from when she was eleven and the system only tripped when he asked for 'gang rape'.
Evidently Grok is capable of creating tonnes of illicit images, whether its 'hard' enough porn for your tastes or not...
And I was referring to UK times richest list vs top taxpayers list.
We tax income, so workers, we don't tax the wealthy who never earnt their money in the first place.
How else can one show the democrats they are willing to vote but not for them? Don't pretend its the same as abstaining, or you don't understand electoral politics
Right, but Capitalism incentivises this behaviour, thus making the checks and balances required both more robust and needing to be applied for regularly - while the powerful are capable of preventing this.
On the other hand, Socialism has incentives that are completely different - managing the abusers would be a much simpler task.
Everything goes poorly, always. Not shifting for the left means horrible things done poorly. Shifting to the left means at least good things done poorly, that's not a meaningless difference.
Just be realistic with the goals of your movement and you won't disappoint anyone - see Mamdani.
As tmyakal said echoed, and I said originally, the better comparison is suboxone/methadone, its about weaning off the harmful food into healthier ones with medical help.
I wasn't trying to snark, and I understood the point, I was primarily trying to point out how harmful it is to 'stop cold turkey' with drugs, and how the relationship with addiction is still similar.
You can wean off of Xanax onto Valium and then reduce dose/dosing frequency until cessation.
You can wean off Heroin onto suboxone/methadone in the same way.
You can wean down from 20mg nicotine to 12, 6 and 3, before switching consumption methods and then finally quitting.
In the same way you can wean down from mcdonalds and taco bell, to home made meals with controlled portions, you can try foods that have high volume. You can stop drinking your calories and consuming sugar. Over time those meals that make you fat will become disgusting and your habit and addiction will falter.
Obviously you can't stop eating completely, and just like alcohol addiction the triggers are ever present in society. But the idea that you can't approach it in the same way is faulty.
If you cold turkey alcohol or benzos you will have seizures and do permanent damage to your body. You're supposed to be weaned off.
In a similar way, you can wean yourself off of excess calories by reducing portion size.
Obviously the end result isn't a complete stop but it could be a complete cessation of certain foods. Just like how heroin addicts are given suboxone/methadone for their cravings.
I'd agree to disagree about the camera though, while my S7 took great photos at the time, my Pixel 7 takes much much better photos, I wouldn't want to switch back, the S7 wouldn't keep up today.
Same with, and especially with video, after taking videos on my sisters iPhone on a recent Canada trip, the difference is unmistakable, almost enough to consider a purchase (although I bought a DJI Pocket 3 instead for videos now)...
I find if you're looking to capture the moment well, 'good enough from ten years ago' doesn't cut it. If you only need your camera for scanning qr codes then that's one thing, but if you want great pictures or videos of a holiday or event the camera upgrades really make a difference. Not year on year mind you, but between upgrades its significant.
The jam in another useless camera gimmick was annoying but that fad is mostly over now.
Honestly thicker phones with silicon carbide batteries could have tablet levels of capacity, that would be amazing, they seem to use it for unnecessary thinness at the moment though.
They currently pay fuck all, they need to pay for more for it to be fair and proper.
When capitalism actually functioned, we had 70-90% tax on the ultrawealthy, now they pay a lower percentage than the middle class.
The ultra wealthy should be forced to pay back into the countries they do business in, or be forced to leave.
They are parasites.
So you are incapable of arguing the facts and so move to ad hominem?
I think properly taxing the financially obese is the answer. Obesity is harmful.
Give yourself up? As a person with a functioning brain or...?
Exploitation is the name of the game, or what do you prefer to refer to it as?
When the richest don't have any income, and therefore don't pay any income tax, it's not ever going to be fair. They got that rich through exploitation of public goods and services and refuse to pay back in to the system that made them. We must tax wealth as too many have 'passive income' in the form of unrealised gains on stocks which they never sell, they take loans out against their value and continuously buy more and more assets until there is nothing left.
Right but grok allows 'undressing' and violation of consent as standard, without jailbreaking?
No its not, thats mostly untrue, if they paid their fair share they wouldnt have such obscene wealth. Thats the only way to accumulate suh wealth, fraud.
We should absolutely be taxing wealth, if we don't the economy will continue to become more and more in the hands of fewer and fewer.
Wealth should be taxed, if you can take loans out against the value of your stocks, then that should be taxed.
The only other workable solution is to make those types of loans illegal, then taxes on realised gains can actually be utilised.
If not, we should absolutely be taxing wealth, otherwise the wealthiest will continue to not pay their fair share.
This man made thousands of csam images of his step daughter from one source image from when she was eleven and the system only tripped when he asked for 'gang rape'.
Evidently Grok is capable of creating tonnes of illicit images, whether its 'hard' enough porn for your tastes or not...
All the other major ai platforms with such ease of access do definitely have significantly more guardrails. Any proof of what you are saying?
You have no idea, tax on income is nothing.
We should be taxing wealth, not work.
And I was referring to UK times richest list vs top taxpayers list. We tax income, so workers, we don't tax the wealthy who never earnt their money in the first place.
The top richest times list and the top taxpayers list don't have any overlap. The majority of billionaires pay fuck all tax.
How else can one show the democrats they are willing to vote but not for them? Don't pretend its the same as abstaining, or you don't understand electoral politics
Right, but Capitalism incentivises this behaviour, thus making the checks and balances required both more robust and needing to be applied for regularly - while the powerful are capable of preventing this.
On the other hand, Socialism has incentives that are completely different - managing the abusers would be a much simpler task.
Kicking the can down the road implies you have a better solution?
Like what?
Everything goes poorly, always. Not shifting for the left means horrible things done poorly. Shifting to the left means at least good things done poorly, that's not a meaningless difference.
Just be realistic with the goals of your movement and you won't disappoint anyone - see Mamdani.
As tmyakal said echoed, and I said originally, the better comparison is suboxone/methadone, its about weaning off the harmful food into healthier ones with medical help.
I wasn't trying to snark, and I understood the point, I was primarily trying to point out how harmful it is to 'stop cold turkey' with drugs, and how the relationship with addiction is still similar.
You can wean off of Xanax onto Valium and then reduce dose/dosing frequency until cessation.
You can wean off Heroin onto suboxone/methadone in the same way.
You can wean down from 20mg nicotine to 12, 6 and 3, before switching consumption methods and then finally quitting.
In the same way you can wean down from mcdonalds and taco bell, to home made meals with controlled portions, you can try foods that have high volume. You can stop drinking your calories and consuming sugar. Over time those meals that make you fat will become disgusting and your habit and addiction will falter.
Obviously you can't stop eating completely, and just like alcohol addiction the triggers are ever present in society. But the idea that you can't approach it in the same way is faulty.
Except you are ignoring the concept of tapering.
If you cold turkey alcohol or benzos you will have seizures and do permanent damage to your body. You're supposed to be weaned off.
In a similar way, you can wean yourself off of excess calories by reducing portion size.
Obviously the end result isn't a complete stop but it could be a complete cessation of certain foods. Just like how heroin addicts are given suboxone/methadone for their cravings.
Lemmy.world users being delusional as usual
Aye fair
I'd agree to disagree about the camera though, while my S7 took great photos at the time, my Pixel 7 takes much much better photos, I wouldn't want to switch back, the S7 wouldn't keep up today.
Same with, and especially with video, after taking videos on my sisters iPhone on a recent Canada trip, the difference is unmistakable, almost enough to consider a purchase (although I bought a DJI Pocket 3 instead for videos now)...
I find if you're looking to capture the moment well, 'good enough from ten years ago' doesn't cut it. If you only need your camera for scanning qr codes then that's one thing, but if you want great pictures or videos of a holiday or event the camera upgrades really make a difference. Not year on year mind you, but between upgrades its significant.
The jam in another useless camera gimmick was annoying but that fad is mostly over now.
Honestly thicker phones with silicon carbide batteries could have tablet levels of capacity, that would be amazing, they seem to use it for unnecessary thinness at the moment though.