It genuinely blows my goddamn mind that this article is actually considered news and has to even be published.
Like, what the fuck do they teach people in business school these days?? Just cut costs endlessly? Like "I have this restaurant with no employees that serves nothing and charges $1B per customer. I will be rich!" ??
The Israel Defense Forces could not confirm a horrific claim that Hamas beheaded babies during a weekend assault, a spokesperson for the military told The Intercept on Tuesday. The claim went viral, becoming a headline-grabbing aspect of a massacre that left more than 1,000 Israelis dead.
Two senior administration officials said Biden was referring to reports from Israel about beheaded children and cited several media reports of beheadings.
Yeah no. That's antisemitic bullshit you see literal Nazis spout off about.
This recent "story" was only posted in a shitty tabloid, picked up by a couple other shitty tabloids, and gullible people spread it all over social media.
My favourite is "absolute free speech!!" combined with "if you say something someone doesn't like, they are entitled to punch you"
Anyone who says that is forgetting that punching falls under assault.
Hate speech is far beyond merely "something I don't like". It is advocating for the oppression and even eradication of people based on their very identity.
Hate speech should not be tolerated if we want to live in a society that tolerates the existence of others. (So called "paradox of tolerance" which is really not a paradox when you frame it as I have). We can tolerate the existence of bigoted assholes but prohibit them spreading their bigotry. Otherwise we live in a society that supports intolerance.
Agree that other parts of the EM spectrum could enhance the ability of MV to recognize things. Appreciate the insights -- maybe I will be able to use this when I get back to tinkering with MV as a hobbyist.
Of course identifying one object is one level. For a general purpose replacement for humans ability, since that's what the thread is focused (ahem) on, it has to identify tens of thousands of objects.
I need to rethink my opinion a bit. Not only how far general object recognition is but also how one can "cheat" to enable robotic automation.
Tasks that are more limited in scope and variability would be a lot less demanding. For a silly example, let's say we want to automate replacing fuses in cars. We limit it to cars with fuse boxes in the engine bay and we can mark the fuse box with a visual tag the robot can detect. The layout of the fuses per vehicle model could be stored. The code on the fuse box identifies the model. The robot then used actuators to remove the cover and orients itself to the box using more markers and the rest is basically pick and place technology. That's a smaller and easier problem to solve than "fix anything possibly wrong with a car". A similar deal could be done for oil changes.
For general purpose MV object detection, I would have to go check but my guess is that what is possible with state of the art MV is identifying a dozen or maybe even hundreds of objects so I suppose one could do quite a bit with that to automate some jobs. MV is not to my knowledge at a level of general purpose replacement for humans. Yet. Maybe it won't take that much longer.
In ~15 years in the hobbyist space we've gone from recognizing anything of a specified color under some lighting conditions to identifying several specific objects. And without a ton of processing power either. It's pretty damn impressive progress, really. We have security cameras that can identify animals, people, and delivery boxes. I am probably selling short what MV will be able to do in 15 more years.
All great points. I guess I need to think of this topic more from the "what is possible" mindset rather than the "this is too hard" mindset to get a fair assessment of what is coming. All while still framing it in the sense of improving worker efficiency and automating human tasks piecemeal over time.
Imagine if everyone paid enough then everyone could afford to buy shit so the businesses would actually make more. đŸ¤¯
It genuinely blows my goddamn mind that this article is actually considered news and has to even be published.
Like, what the fuck do they teach people in business school these days?? Just cut costs endlessly? Like "I have this restaurant with no employees that serves nothing and charges $1B per customer. I will be rich!" ??
Totally get that, yes. Well put.
And they thought they needed to lie to convince people of this?
Like honor killings don't already happen and women aren't already second class citizens, at best, in more than a few countries?
No it's not verified at this time according to this:
https://theintercept.com/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-disinformation/
And Biden was just echoing "news" reports
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna119865
I thought it said Mr.GOP for a sec
Well if the studies are correct that will happen sooner than if you own.
Always a silver lining /s
Yeah no. That's antisemitic bullshit you see literal Nazis spout off about.
This recent "story" was only posted in a shitty tabloid, picked up by a couple other shitty tabloids, and gullible people spread it all over social media.
Is this in reference to sponsored content on the new tab page?
Telemetry? Or something else?
Well.... I guess I've never heard it spoken before lol
Yes.
I don't know if there is any hope of avoiding the whole fascism thing on our way to collapse but I sure hope so. Ugh this country is so fucked up.
That's how my grandmother went out. Definitely preferable to many other ways. :( Sorry you had to go through that. Dementia of any kind is horrible.
It's a really uncommon word. But hey, you get to be one of today's lucky 10,000.
Anyone who says that is forgetting that punching falls under assault.
Hate speech is far beyond merely "something I don't like". It is advocating for the oppression and even eradication of people based on their very identity.
Hate speech should not be tolerated if we want to live in a society that tolerates the existence of others. (So called "paradox of tolerance" which is really not a paradox when you frame it as I have). We can tolerate the existence of bigoted assholes but prohibit them spreading their bigotry. Otherwise we live in a society that supports intolerance.
You might be right now that you mention it. đŸ¤”
Agree that other parts of the EM spectrum could enhance the ability of MV to recognize things. Appreciate the insights -- maybe I will be able to use this when I get back to tinkering with MV as a hobbyist.
Of course identifying one object is one level. For a general purpose replacement for humans ability, since that's what the thread is focused (ahem) on, it has to identify tens of thousands of objects.
I need to rethink my opinion a bit. Not only how far general object recognition is but also how one can "cheat" to enable robotic automation.
Tasks that are more limited in scope and variability would be a lot less demanding. For a silly example, let's say we want to automate replacing fuses in cars. We limit it to cars with fuse boxes in the engine bay and we can mark the fuse box with a visual tag the robot can detect. The layout of the fuses per vehicle model could be stored. The code on the fuse box identifies the model. The robot then used actuators to remove the cover and orients itself to the box using more markers and the rest is basically pick and place technology. That's a smaller and easier problem to solve than "fix anything possibly wrong with a car". A similar deal could be done for oil changes.
For general purpose MV object detection, I would have to go check but my guess is that what is possible with state of the art MV is identifying a dozen or maybe even hundreds of objects so I suppose one could do quite a bit with that to automate some jobs. MV is not to my knowledge at a level of general purpose replacement for humans. Yet. Maybe it won't take that much longer.
In ~15 years in the hobbyist space we've gone from recognizing anything of a specified color under some lighting conditions to identifying several specific objects. And without a ton of processing power either. It's pretty damn impressive progress, really. We have security cameras that can identify animals, people, and delivery boxes. I am probably selling short what MV will be able to do in 15 more years.
All great points. I guess I need to think of this topic more from the "what is possible" mindset rather than the "this is too hard" mindset to get a fair assessment of what is coming. All while still framing it in the sense of improving worker efficiency and automating human tasks piecemeal over time.
Somebody let me know when the Artist Formerly Known as Twitter faces any consequences.