DeepSeek models are mainly focused on the efficiency they manage to have and how it forces other labs to push their prices down.
I've been able to use V4 Flash for most things over the past two weeks without really feeling like I need to use more expensive options like Kimi K3 or any of the American labs.
I like this article downplaying the model by saying this is only a "mini deepseek moment in a developer centric sense" - as if developers aren't the main profitable use case for LLMs and the ones responsible for the model selection in products that reach end users
If the model is good enough for a developer and the cost is right, then that's the model that you're going to be using whether you notice or not.
I've used local models and they just tend to screw up more often in my experience. But I'm also more focused on having agents do long running tasks which small models just aren't good at.
The reason things haven't fallen apart is because there's a lot of devs working a lot more than they used to making sure they're patching vulnerabilities. Last year if you asked me what portion of my time was spent updating dependencies and responding to reports of vulnerabilities I'd say like 5-10%, this year that's easily more like 30%
I'm sure not every company is doing this, but depending on the sensitivity of the data the company is holding I'd imagine you'd see similar patterns elsewhere
I don't see this ending up as anything other than the companies effected increasing their prices to cover themselves (and then some) and then the adjusted revenue being taken as a tax and passed directly to the media industry. We're just funnelling money to executives that will lobby for more money to be funnelled to them instead of them actually making a product that people want to use
There was a picture a few years back with the chair of the CRTC out for beers with the CEO of Bell - there's just no chance in hell this money is going to actual people without getting really heavily skimmed by those execs.
This is just corporate welfare for our media corporations. If you think this is going to do anything other than just end up flowing up to the executives of Bell, Rogers, and Telus media then you are mistaken.
DeepSeek models are mainly focused on the efficiency they manage to have and how it forces other labs to push their prices down.
I've been able to use V4 Flash for most things over the past two weeks without really feeling like I need to use more expensive options like Kimi K3 or any of the American labs.
I use nitrile gloves
Just the cost of doing business
I'm mainly referring to their cloud offering if someone needs European hosted models
I don't really pay attention beyond that given that basically every company in this industry is doing something stupid
Well, this one will be a little bit, but Ollama hosts in Europe and has options for no data retention
why do you think I'm here
Micron
Does not work on Voyager for Android, the humble inefficient GIF continues in spite of more efficient options
Counterpoint: GIFs loop by default in basically every app, WEBM doesn't
Oil pan full of sludge, presumably because so much of the motor oil has burned off
I like this article downplaying the model by saying this is only a "mini deepseek moment in a developer centric sense" - as if developers aren't the main profitable use case for LLMs and the ones responsible for the model selection in products that reach end users
If the model is good enough for a developer and the cost is right, then that's the model that you're going to be using whether you notice or not.
I've used local models and they just tend to screw up more often in my experience. But I'm also more focused on having agents do long running tasks which small models just aren't good at.
Well then Alibaba needs to get better at it cause the Qwen models have kinda sucked in my experience.
The reason things haven't fallen apart is because there's a lot of devs working a lot more than they used to making sure they're patching vulnerabilities. Last year if you asked me what portion of my time was spent updating dependencies and responding to reports of vulnerabilities I'd say like 5-10%, this year that's easily more like 30%
I'm sure not every company is doing this, but depending on the sensitivity of the data the company is holding I'd imagine you'd see similar patterns elsewhere
I'm more of a Petro Canada fella
I don't see this ending up as anything other than the companies effected increasing their prices to cover themselves (and then some) and then the adjusted revenue being taken as a tax and passed directly to the media industry. We're just funnelling money to executives that will lobby for more money to be funnelled to them instead of them actually making a product that people want to use
There was a picture a few years back with the chair of the CRTC out for beers with the CEO of Bell - there's just no chance in hell this money is going to actual people without getting really heavily skimmed by those execs.
This is just corporate welfare for our media corporations. If you think this is going to do anything other than just end up flowing up to the executives of Bell, Rogers, and Telus media then you are mistaken.
I was too late to make the Lua joke, damn
Well your first mistake was using Chrome in 2026