I have read some more comments. Looks like food pantries are mentioned which is further down the supply chain. Yes, canning and nitrogen warehouses exists. That is more infrastructure. I would assume all land and infrastructure is ideally community owned and operated.
The abundence argument seems written by people who do not produce anything.
I don't think abundence arguments help the left. I raise fruit. I lose fruit to animals and weather. There is variability in the amount of fruit I produce. I often produce more than I can consume, but the logistics of getting the fruit to someone else doesn't work out and the fruit rots. Some years I lose my fruit blossoms to frost.
I have family that work potatoes for a commercial operation. There were a bunch of potatoes that were too big to sell commercially. The operation left the potatoes to rot in the field. My relative bagged potatoes and brought them to family in the old gift economy fashion.
What is the abundence economy argument really about? Are you going to buy bird pecked fruit or C'thulu looking potatoes? Country folk trim off the bad spots. City folk often haven't gotten their hands dirty.
I'm all for anarchy and communism. That means doing some real work and not just reaping the surpluses of capitalism. Chop some wood, it'll do you good and be a good neighbor.
Maybe the joke is nothing complex is written in fad languages?
Maybe the joke is the discounting of peer review and testing?
Maybe the joke is the lack of devops knowledge where Python is extra steps over other scripting languages?
It seems like promotion of fad languages. When I was younger, I chased fads and lost hard. I'll stick with C and C++. Run-time failures happen to everyone including fad languages. Here's looking at you Rust CVE's. Better to have loved and lost, something, something.
In the US, Obama's administration was publicly against "boots on the ground" since it was largely unpopular in "liberal" circles after Bush's "War on Terror". Instead, Obama's administration increased drone based missions to do the violent bidding of the owning class.
"Liberals" may talk a great game about immigration reform, ending prisons like Guantanimo, net neutrality and protecting consumers from the owning class. When action is required "liberals" continue to advance the owning classes agenda using means that do not look bad to their base. Japanese internment camps were an executive order by a "liberal" President.
This is US centric, but the issues are inherent to Liberalism. Historical non-fiction is a genre of book.
I have no ethical qualms with those who make weapons. Horizontal communities need the means to defend themselves against external domination. The dilemma is, under capitalism, dominators employ weapons against those unable to defend themselves thereby realizing the idea of Hell on Earth.
The narrative was vote Biden and move him left. Biden did not move left. He enabled and contributed to genocide. Kamala actively stated she would continue Biden's policies. She also said she would be "tough on the border".
Should anyone in a democracy believe the words and actions of the candidates?
I talk to people about ideas like "keeping the full benefit of their labor power", "cooperating with other human beings", "no war but the class war" and "no gods no masters". I'm awful at parties and fragmenting the left. Infighting is real. Never trust a ML.
As a wage laborer, I am chosen by a capitalist or their delegate, to do work for a wage. I can choose from a handful of places offering similar wages. The wage may allow me to pay rent on a place to live, transportation and acquire food.
If I do not take a job from the handful that I compete for with others, I will be homeless, without access to transportation and without food. For the wage laborer, capitalism is get lucky and find a wage contract or starve.
While working I produce enough to cover more than that wage. The capitalist pockets the excess of my labor. I live pay check to pay check. The capitalist buys another home. The extraction is in the exchange of labor for wages.
I'm not sure where this is going. Spitting on someone is violent. Violence does not go away under anarchy. Maintaining horizontal power requires violence.
The aim is to establish communal horizontal power while living under existing power structures. An example is bringing neighbors the excess fruit from a harvest. The practice is common in rural communities. The magic is cooperation and mutualism. No bosses required.
I am impressed by the pacifist responses on Lemmy. I assume country means the USA.
Labor strikes have led to violence. Among the consolations were the eight hour work day for some and an end to some child labor.
The Kansas-Nebraska Act sparked Bleeding Kansas which contributed to the Civil War. The result of the violence was a change in labor relations for slaves. Owners had to get more creative at creating an underclass.
Hilbert's Paradox of the Grand Hotel seems to be the thought experiment with which you were engaged with your math associate. There are countable and uncountable infinities. Integers and skip counted integers are both countable and infinite. Real numbers are uncountable and infinite. There are sets that are more uncountable than others. That uncountability is denoted by aleph number. Uncountable means can't be mapped to the natural numbers (1, 2, 3...). Infinite means a list with all the elements can't be created.
The crackdown on campus protests against genocide under the Biden administration was a timbre change. I see Republicans and Democrats as enabling friends. US politics are weird.
We are both opposed to fascism. I would say you have a pacifist position. I'm not a pacifist and am unfamiliar with non-violent solutions to tankies or fascists. Are there examples of removing tankies or fascists without violence?
As a wage laborer, I trade time for a fixed amount of money to be deposited to my bank account.
As an employer, I agree to pay employees a wage based on some existing contract.
As a wage laborer, I can work harder to sell more product making more profits for the company.
As an employer, a productive wage laborer increases my profits since ((gross profit) - (fixed labor cost)) = (net profit).
The kicker is the productive wage laborer could keep the net profits, or split them with other workers, if not for the employer. The employer has trapped land, capital (building, tools, ect) and a favorable agreement with labor in the form of wages to fix costs. The employer then lives off the work of others.
Employers are parasites. The struggle between wage laborers and employers is a class struggle. Class solidarity is an acknowledgement of the parasitic relationship. Class solidarity, friend!
My guess from the question an expectation of some formal group. Such groups exist. Better yet is prefiguration.
Build community in your neighborhood by getting to know your neighbors and contributing your skills to meet common goals. People, being social animals, work together to meet their needs. That is resistance.
Look out for your neighborhoods safety. Some ideas for doing that include: securing a water source, learning to raise food, learning basic repair of equipment, working on cardio, learning grappling/striking or joining a gun club. Be a neighbor with skills.
Lastly, never trust an organization with a heirarchy of leaders. Said leaders will eventually need to lynched. Joining the Marxist-Leninist book club is about as productive as Bible study.
I agree that colonizers have harmed indigenous people, but find the argument anyone has a birth right claim to property proposterous. As Proudhon proclaimed, "Property is theft!". I expect any revolution toward anarchy to remove property from the owning class.
I am less knowledgable than you about "land back". How does "land back" differ from other ethno nationalist movements like "blood and soil"?
The ideas that domination is the goal are correct. The domination goes beyond social issues. Owing someone rent puts them in a position to dominate me. Saying the rent is the people's rent doesn't rationalize the domination.
I have read some more comments. Looks like food pantries are mentioned which is further down the supply chain. Yes, canning and nitrogen warehouses exists. That is more infrastructure. I would assume all land and infrastructure is ideally community owned and operated.
The abundence argument seems written by people who do not produce anything.
I don't think abundence arguments help the left. I raise fruit. I lose fruit to animals and weather. There is variability in the amount of fruit I produce. I often produce more than I can consume, but the logistics of getting the fruit to someone else doesn't work out and the fruit rots. Some years I lose my fruit blossoms to frost.
I have family that work potatoes for a commercial operation. There were a bunch of potatoes that were too big to sell commercially. The operation left the potatoes to rot in the field. My relative bagged potatoes and brought them to family in the old gift economy fashion.
What is the abundence economy argument really about? Are you going to buy bird pecked fruit or C'thulu looking potatoes? Country folk trim off the bad spots. City folk often haven't gotten their hands dirty.
I'm all for anarchy and communism. That means doing some real work and not just reaping the surpluses of capitalism. Chop some wood, it'll do you good and be a good neighbor.
I don't get it.
Maybe the joke is nothing complex is written in fad languages?
Maybe the joke is the discounting of peer review and testing?
Maybe the joke is the lack of devops knowledge where Python is extra steps over other scripting languages?
It seems like promotion of fad languages. When I was younger, I chased fads and lost hard. I'll stick with C and C++. Run-time failures happen to everyone including fad languages. Here's looking at you Rust CVE's. Better to have loved and lost, something, something.
In the US, Obama's administration was publicly against "boots on the ground" since it was largely unpopular in "liberal" circles after Bush's "War on Terror". Instead, Obama's administration increased drone based missions to do the violent bidding of the owning class.
"Liberals" may talk a great game about immigration reform, ending prisons like Guantanimo, net neutrality and protecting consumers from the owning class. When action is required "liberals" continue to advance the owning classes agenda using means that do not look bad to their base. Japanese internment camps were an executive order by a "liberal" President.
This is US centric, but the issues are inherent to Liberalism. Historical non-fiction is a genre of book.
I have no ethical qualms with those who make weapons. Horizontal communities need the means to defend themselves against external domination. The dilemma is, under capitalism, dominators employ weapons against those unable to defend themselves thereby realizing the idea of Hell on Earth.
The narrative was vote Biden and move him left. Biden did not move left. He enabled and contributed to genocide. Kamala actively stated she would continue Biden's policies. She also said she would be "tough on the border".
Should anyone in a democracy believe the words and actions of the candidates?
I talk to people about ideas like "keeping the full benefit of their labor power", "cooperating with other human beings", "no war but the class war" and "no gods no masters". I'm awful at parties and fragmenting the left. Infighting is real. Never trust a ML.
As a wage laborer, I am chosen by a capitalist or their delegate, to do work for a wage. I can choose from a handful of places offering similar wages. The wage may allow me to pay rent on a place to live, transportation and acquire food.
If I do not take a job from the handful that I compete for with others, I will be homeless, without access to transportation and without food. For the wage laborer, capitalism is get lucky and find a wage contract or starve.
While working I produce enough to cover more than that wage. The capitalist pockets the excess of my labor. I live pay check to pay check. The capitalist buys another home. The extraction is in the exchange of labor for wages.
I'm not sure where this is going. Spitting on someone is violent. Violence does not go away under anarchy. Maintaining horizontal power requires violence.
The aim is to establish communal horizontal power while living under existing power structures. An example is bringing neighbors the excess fruit from a harvest. The practice is common in rural communities. The magic is cooperation and mutualism. No bosses required.
I am impressed by the pacifist responses on Lemmy. I assume country means the USA.
Labor strikes have led to violence. Among the consolations were the eight hour work day for some and an end to some child labor.
The Kansas-Nebraska Act sparked Bleeding Kansas which contributed to the Civil War. The result of the violence was a change in labor relations for slaves. Owners had to get more creative at creating an underclass.
Hilbert's Paradox of the Grand Hotel seems to be the thought experiment with which you were engaged with your math associate. There are countable and uncountable infinities. Integers and skip counted integers are both countable and infinite. Real numbers are uncountable and infinite. There are sets that are more uncountable than others. That uncountability is denoted by aleph number. Uncountable means can't be mapped to the natural numbers (1, 2, 3...). Infinite means a list with all the elements can't be created.
The crackdown on campus protests against genocide under the Biden administration was a timbre change. I see Republicans and Democrats as enabling friends. US politics are weird.
We are both opposed to fascism. I would say you have a pacifist position. I'm not a pacifist and am unfamiliar with non-violent solutions to tankies or fascists. Are there examples of removing tankies or fascists without violence?
As a wage laborer, I trade time for a fixed amount of money to be deposited to my bank account.
As an employer, I agree to pay employees a wage based on some existing contract.
As a wage laborer, I can work harder to sell more product making more profits for the company.
As an employer, a productive wage laborer increases my profits since ((gross profit) - (fixed labor cost)) = (net profit).
The kicker is the productive wage laborer could keep the net profits, or split them with other workers, if not for the employer. The employer has trapped land, capital (building, tools, ect) and a favorable agreement with labor in the form of wages to fix costs. The employer then lives off the work of others.
Employers are parasites. The struggle between wage laborers and employers is a class struggle. Class solidarity is an acknowledgement of the parasitic relationship. Class solidarity, friend!
My guess from the question an expectation of some formal group. Such groups exist. Better yet is prefiguration.
Build community in your neighborhood by getting to know your neighbors and contributing your skills to meet common goals. People, being social animals, work together to meet their needs. That is resistance.
Look out for your neighborhoods safety. Some ideas for doing that include: securing a water source, learning to raise food, learning basic repair of equipment, working on cardio, learning grappling/striking or joining a gun club. Be a neighbor with skills.
Lastly, never trust an organization with a heirarchy of leaders. Said leaders will eventually need to lynched. Joining the Marxist-Leninist book club is about as productive as Bible study.
Autonomy in "what is produced" is stiffled under the system of wage labor.
I agree that colonizers have harmed indigenous people, but find the argument anyone has a birth right claim to property proposterous. As Proudhon proclaimed, "Property is theft!". I expect any revolution toward anarchy to remove property from the owning class.
I am less knowledgable than you about "land back". How does "land back" differ from other ethno nationalist movements like "blood and soil"?
The ideas that domination is the goal are correct. The domination goes beyond social issues. Owing someone rent puts them in a position to dominate me. Saying the rent is the people's rent doesn't rationalize the domination.