This is exactly why economics, or any discipline, should not be permitted to dictate the function or structure of a system in a domain outside of its area of expertise.
For me, a core requirement for intelligence is comprehension, something a LLM is intrinsically incapable of possessing nor performing.
‘Artificial Intelligence’ has been used for decades, but it has never functionally been anything more than a marketing term; originally conjured for a grant proposal, and subsequently oozed into entertainment and politics.
No one who is impressed by the function, or output, of a LLM to the level they consider it to be in any way adjacent to intelligence, should be involved in a decision making process which affects anyone not similarly cognitively impaired.
I’ve never used a LLM willingly, and otherwise avoid interaction with them where possible.
My base impression from interacting with those who actively choose to use LLMs, and unironically call them ‘AI’, is they’re a competency and credibility chipper.
It’s one thing to leverage a tool, where it makes sense for a task, and can otherwise be justified, but there’s a carcinogenic effect on cognition at play with prolonged exposure to whatever form LLMs are in today.
Profit isn’t the origin of money, it’s an accumulation function of currency users. See MMT.
Pepper them throughout existing infrastructure
Well, wasn’t that kind of what we were doing? Everyone hosting their own data servers, without the addition of holding data outside the infrastructure owner?
I’ll rarely advocate for going back to what existed before, but my concept is to build on that distributed deployment, but tie it together with federation and fibre to provide agency, efficiency, and resilience. A distributed data centre for lack of a better term.
AI and LLM infrastructure isn’t just my concern and it isn’t even where my issue came from. It’s data security, the kind of people that tend to own these, what they might do with it and the environmental and social impact.
Smaller, intentional, federated sites could address this, it needs a solid model to build a proof of concept upon.
Outside this very small echo chamber I’m not alone either. Most of those I know professionally harbour the same concerns I do, and don’t believe they are necessary. I agree with Taleya that a lot of people automatically think AI and LLM. I don’t and neither do most of those I’ve worked and engage with.
I suspect something was lost or omitted in the thread to this point which masked a broader consensus, and I think there’s a lot of potential if our agreements can be realised less violently.
You’ve thoroughly proven you don’t know what you’re typing about, here’s a lollipop 🍭.
…purpose built data centres whose goal is to make money on data.
Only the federal government can make money, if anyone else does that, it’s counterfeiting and fraud. What they’re doing is accumulating money, and extracting profit.
As for hiring space in these centres for your business, you’d be a dickhead to do it.
A roundabout way of admitting your purchase order has been submitted, but you do you.
We don’t need them and given what harm they cause, both environmentally and towards society, there isn’t a valid reason to have them in Australia.
We’ve had them on this island for decades, they’ve been fine until this current fascist perversion tickled the generals of our elected neoliberal ‘representatives’.
My bar is, like any other infrastructure, that they need to be justifiable, and defensible against any legitimate critical scrutiny levelled against them. The hyper concentration of resource ingestion, consumption, and excretion intrinsic of the implementations currently proposed immediately negates them on this basis.
I’d prefer a distributed model. Pepper them throughout existing infrastructure (businesses, basements in apartment towers) to dilute their environmental impact. Require closed loop cooling systems, with exhaust heat captured and fed into secondary functions like preheating hot water. Scale can be built from the diverse meshed connections between neighbouring sites, and sites can be scaled back or shut down as required.
None of that should legitimise the inane push to build ‘AI’ infrastructure. Anyone advocating for that rubbish needs to be summarily dismissed, and ridiculed when they persist.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
All flagpoles need to hang disco balls and have rainbow LED strobes pointed at them for a week when he finally has a stroke and falls from his gilded throne.
President Vance even looks like a monkey’s paw.
He’s 25.
Gotta protect their own.
This is exactly why economics, or any discipline, should not be permitted to dictate the function or structure of a system in a domain outside of its area of expertise.
For me, a core requirement for intelligence is comprehension, something a LLM is intrinsically incapable of possessing nor performing.
‘Artificial Intelligence’ has been used for decades, but it has never functionally been anything more than a marketing term; originally conjured for a grant proposal, and subsequently oozed into entertainment and politics.
No one who is impressed by the function, or output, of a LLM to the level they consider it to be in any way adjacent to intelligence, should be involved in a decision making process which affects anyone not similarly cognitively impaired.
I’ve never used a LLM willingly, and otherwise avoid interaction with them where possible.
My base impression from interacting with those who actively choose to use LLMs, and unironically call them ‘AI’, is they’re a competency and credibility chipper.
It’s one thing to leverage a tool, where it makes sense for a task, and can otherwise be justified, but there’s a carcinogenic effect on cognition at play with prolonged exposure to whatever form LLMs are in today.
Also, happy 29th anniversary of Judgement Day.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.
White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.
Profit isn’t the origin of money, it’s an accumulation function of currency users. See MMT.
I’ll rarely advocate for going back to what existed before, but my concept is to build on that distributed deployment, but tie it together with federation and fibre to provide agency, efficiency, and resilience. A distributed data centre for lack of a better term.
Smaller, intentional, federated sites could address this, it needs a solid model to build a proof of concept upon.
I suspect something was lost or omitted in the thread to this point which masked a broader consensus, and I think there’s a lot of potential if our agreements can be realised less violently.
You’ve thoroughly proven you don’t know what you’re typing about, here’s a lollipop 🍭.
Only the federal government can make money, if anyone else does that, it’s counterfeiting and fraud. What they’re doing is accumulating money, and extracting profit.
A roundabout way of admitting your purchase order has been submitted, but you do you.
We’ve had them on this island for decades, they’ve been fine until this current fascist perversion tickled the generals of our elected neoliberal ‘representatives’.
My bar is, like any other infrastructure, that they need to be justifiable, and defensible against any legitimate critical scrutiny levelled against them. The hyper concentration of resource ingestion, consumption, and excretion intrinsic of the implementations currently proposed immediately negates them on this basis.
I’d prefer a distributed model. Pepper them throughout existing infrastructure (businesses, basements in apartment towers) to dilute their environmental impact. Require closed loop cooling systems, with exhaust heat captured and fed into secondary functions like preheating hot water. Scale can be built from the diverse meshed connections between neighbouring sites, and sites can be scaled back or shut down as required.
None of that should legitimise the inane push to build ‘AI’ infrastructure. Anyone advocating for that rubbish needs to be summarily dismissed, and ridiculed when they persist.
Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.
White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Any entity involved with food which explicitly claims to be gourmet is objectively not.
It’s an older clip, sir, but it checks out.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
How about he lead by example, and have a fleet of drones follow him providing a 24/7 publicly available feed.
One of the few legitimate labels of LLMs as ‘AI’ is Amplified Incompetence, as per the Peter principle.
That could be a perverse incentive to have businesses curtail their excretions.
Advertising is the most prolific form of environmental pollution wrought by commerce.
It needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking, and every instance of it must be exhaustively scrutinised and required to be justified.
All flagpoles need to hang disco balls and have rainbow LED strobes pointed at them for a week when he finally has a stroke and falls from his gilded throne.