@blackbrook@bjoern_tantau VLC > Tools > Customise interface lets me make it look like this - which is very usable. Using the flatpak version on #Librem5 running PureOS Crimson. Also tested previously on postmarketOS on another L5.
@kent_eh@Snoopy Which continent are you on? I'm pretty sure @purism, @furilabs and @mechasystems will all ship there, although Mecha's device will need the upcoming LTE module to use it somewhat like a phone.
@Bluegrass_Addict@bruhbeans Agreed. Doesn't Android 16 already have the ability to "run Linux as an app?" Even on Android 15 and earlier people do this using @termux, proot, etc.
The dodgy surveillance OSes, Google Android and #Microslop Windows, get installed on the device, while the trustworthy OS, Debian #GNULinux, gets installed as a constrained and restricted app?
@Sxan Based on a recent forum post by @jc, their #LibertyPhone production run should also be complete in December. Actually screen repacement cost is how I came to L5. A previous Pixel 6 Pro device's screen replacement cost was so high that it made more sense to pay $20-50 more and buy a brand new 6A. Now I'm seeing that Librem 5 screen cost 1/8th of the product price and roughly 1/5th of the Pixel 6 Pro screen replacement cost!
@Sxan I'm not in the US, but #Librem5 works with carrier T-Mobile and Purism's Awesim according to their wiki and forums.
I'm daily driving Librem 5 with #postmarketOS (stable - phosh) and everything critical for my use case works: VoLTE calls and SMS (although I avoid both now since #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, basic camera, GPS navigation using #PureMaps, latest apps from #Flathub, web browsing using Firefox-ESR, e2ee messaging and calling using Signal Desktop, DeltaChat, Matrix, XMPP, etc. and of course my most used feature, the headphone jack!
What does not work is recording sound in videos, although recording sound itself using Sound Recorder works, just not in videos.
I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and most important things work OK despite the modest specs. I especially appreciate the removable user-replaceable battery and general modularity. However, the feature I use most (more than calls and messages even) is... the #HeadphoneJack!
I consider it an upgrade with a few acceptable tradeoffs. The extra 2GB RAM can make huge difference epecially with bloated Electron apps, Waydroid, etc running in the background.
@Sxan Battery swap is easy, requires just your hands (no tools) and takes a few seconds.
Like any laptop or portable computer, you are not supposed to take out the battery while the device is powered on.
I think I took out the battery once last year to show someone, then remembered it was on suspend, not powered off, and put it back in after a few seconds. Not sure if that caused any harm to my #Librem5 - it's functioning well or better than when I received it...
@Sxan@poVoq#FLX1s is a Linux phone from @furilabs that can do all of that. Even my modest-spec #Librem5 with #postmarketOS can do all of that except the battery runtime - I supplement it with a small power bank.
@Auli@jcs I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything really important works for my use case, including legacy unencrypted phone calls (VoLTE), SMS messages, 4G data, Wi-Fi, web browsing, email, #e2ee comms with #SignalApp, #DeltaChat, #Matrix, #XMPP, latest apps from #Flathub, etc.
Sure it's nowhere as fast as mainstream Android phones and has only basic camera support, but then those aren't my priorities when looking at #freedomtech.
@Ilovethebomb@Fizz Depends on your circle but in my experience, these are the same people who completely locked into WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, etc and only use SMS/calls when you don't answer their WA messages : )
@Fizz@oxysis Agreed, after #SaltTyphoon, no one should be using legacy unencrypted calls and SMS for personal communication. A data-only SIM with instant messaging apps for calls and messages can work in 2025.
@SanctimoniousApe Yes, I think the previous one may have been a Gigaset #GX6. That could be a good thing comparedto engineering a phone like Purism, Pine64, etc. It's just going top to bottom, rather than the reverse, so normie-users get stuff working out of the box and can daily drive it.
I don't think #FuriLabs are opposed to engineering a phone with mainline kernel support, but who is going to finance that? Certainly not enough users willing to pay for the purist approach - which I support BTW as #Librem5 / #postmarketOS user. So their approach does make sense with very limited money, time and support.
@SanctimoniousApe@cm0002 I need a head phone jack too, but I guess using a USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is way cheaper and simpler than engineering a brand new Linux phone that caters exactly to everyone's preferences : )
@blackbrook @bjoern_tantau VLC > Tools > Customise interface lets me make it look like this - which is very usable. Using the flatpak version on #Librem5 running PureOS Crimson. Also tested previously on postmarketOS on another L5.
Btw, the audio playing is https://neat.tube/w/xyEQn5t7oDxzAb9ikGxfWZ by @privacyguides
#VLC #VLCmediaplayer #LinuxMobile #MobileLinux #PureOS
@kent_eh @Snoopy Which continent are you on? I'm pretty sure @purism, @furilabs and @mechasystems will all ship there, although Mecha's device will need the upcoming LTE module to use it somewhat like a phone.
@Bluegrass_Addict @bruhbeans Agreed. Doesn't Android 16 already have the ability to "run Linux as an app?" Even on Android 15 and earlier people do this using @termux, proot, etc.
The dodgy surveillance OSes, Google Android and #Microslop Windows, get installed on the device, while the trustworthy OS, Debian #GNULinux, gets installed as a constrained and restricted app?
Whatever happened to people's brains?
#NexPhone #NexDock
@Sxan Based on a recent forum post by @jc, their #LibertyPhone production run should also be complete in December. Actually screen repacement cost is how I came to L5. A previous Pixel 6 Pro device's screen replacement cost was so high that it made more sense to pay $20-50 more and buy a brand new 6A. Now I'm seeing that Librem 5 screen cost 1/8th of the product price and roughly 1/5th of the Pixel 6 Pro screen replacement cost!
@Sxan I'm not in the US, but #Librem5 works with carrier T-Mobile and Purism's Awesim according to their wiki and forums.
I'm daily driving Librem 5 with #postmarketOS (stable - phosh) and everything critical for my use case works: VoLTE calls and SMS (although I avoid both now since #SaltTyphoon), 4G data, Wi-Fi, basic camera, GPS navigation using #PureMaps, latest apps from #Flathub, web browsing using Firefox-ESR, e2ee messaging and calling using Signal Desktop, DeltaChat, Matrix, XMPP, etc. and of course my most used feature, the headphone jack!
What does not work is recording sound in videos, although recording sound itself using Sound Recorder works, just not in videos.
@Mynameisallen @potatoguy VoLTE is supported on the #Librem5 with #postmarketOS - I'm daily driving one. Old units will need modem firmware upgrade plus enabling #VoLTE manually.
@DarkAri The #Librem5 does work in the US with T-Mobile, various smaller carriers and @purism 's AweSIM.
@DarkAri @warmaster Agreed. @henry Linux phones are the only long-term freedom and privacy respecting solution. Check out the #Furiphone #FLX1s from @furilabs
I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and most important things work OK despite the modest specs. I especially appreciate the removable user-replaceable battery and general modularity. However, the feature I use most (more than calls and messages even) is... the #HeadphoneJack!
@Auli Depends on how you look at things.
I consider it an upgrade with a few acceptable tradeoffs. The extra 2GB RAM can make huge difference epecially with bloated Electron apps, Waydroid, etc running in the background.
@Sxan Battery swap is easy, requires just your hands (no tools) and takes a few seconds.
Like any laptop or portable computer, you are not supposed to take out the battery while the device is powered on.
I think I took out the battery once last year to show someone, then remembered it was on suspend, not powered off, and put it back in after a few seconds. Not sure if that caused any harm to my #Librem5 - it's functioning well or better than when I received it...
@turbowafflz Look out for a review on @one_with_linux's channel but don't wait too long, as they do small batches.
@Sxan @poVoq #FLX1s is a Linux phone from @furilabs that can do all of that. Even my modest-spec #Librem5 with #postmarketOS can do all of that except the battery runtime - I supplement it with a small power bank.
@turbowafflz @Sunshine Furiphone FLX1s from @furilabs runs an open source OS and has very decent specs.
@Auli @jcs I'm daily driving a #Librem5 with #postmarketOS and everything really important works for my use case, including legacy unencrypted phone calls (VoLTE), SMS messages, 4G data, Wi-Fi, web browsing, email, #e2ee comms with #SignalApp, #DeltaChat, #Matrix, #XMPP, latest apps from #Flathub, etc.
Even running many Android apps with #Fdroid and #Obtainium work via #Waydroid although I tested that on #PureOS, not #postmarketOS.
Sure it's nowhere as fast as mainstream Android phones and has only basic camera support, but then those aren't my priorities when looking at #freedomtech.
@TrickDacy @DrDystopia Try #FLX1s from @furilabs
@chocrates @DeathByBigSad If you're already used to Linux desktop, I'd even venture to say that Linux phones are daily drivable for you in this order: #FLX1s from @furilabs, #JollaC2, #LibertyPhone, #Librem5, #Pinephone.
I'm daily driving a #Librem 5 with #postmarketOS and everything critical actually works for my use case.
@Ilovethebomb @Fizz Depends on your circle but in my experience, these are the same people who completely locked into WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, etc and only use SMS/calls when you don't answer their WA messages : )
@Fizz @oxysis Agreed, after #SaltTyphoon, no one should be using legacy unencrypted calls and SMS for personal communication. A data-only SIM with instant messaging apps for calls and messages can work in 2025.
@SanctimoniousApe Yes, I think the previous one may have been a Gigaset #GX6. That could be a good thing comparedto engineering a phone like Purism, Pine64, etc. It's just going top to bottom, rather than the reverse, so normie-users get stuff working out of the box and can daily drive it.
I don't think #FuriLabs are opposed to engineering a phone with mainline kernel support, but who is going to finance that? Certainly not enough users willing to pay for the purist approach - which I support BTW as #Librem5 / #postmarketOS user. So their approach does make sense with very limited money, time and support.
@SanctimoniousApe @cm0002 I need a head phone jack too, but I guess using a USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter is way cheaper and simpler than engineering a brand new Linux phone that caters exactly to everyone's preferences : )