Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It's not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.
I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.
Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don't see any path forward here.
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Arete@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2y
Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It's not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.
Cinner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It's not an end. It's temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.
Arete@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.
Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don't see any path forward here.
philo@discuss.online · -35 pts · 2y
You don't want a ceasefire?
PoastRotato@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.
Arete@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y
I didn't state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.
philo@discuss.online · -26 pts · 2y
The article says they are making headway, which contradicts your post outright.
Arete@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
... I'm stating my reasoning for disagreeing with the article. What I wrote is my opinion, which isn't something an article can contradict.
philo@discuss.online · -29 pts · 2y
Your reasoning needs work, it is more cynical than reasoning.
Arete@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Ok so that was where you should have picked a step in my reasoning that you disagree with and explained why.
philo@discuss.online · -26 pts · 2y
No , that is in a debate and that is if you used reason. There have been other ceasefires between Hamas and Israel. No reply is necessary.
philo@discuss.online · -37 pts · 2y
Whoever downvoted this, is it because you want the fighting to go on?
theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me · 18 pts · 2y
No, you're just insufferable.
philo@discuss.online · -19 pts · 2y
so you admit to manipulating the voting system?
theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me · 11 pts · 2y
Lol, it's not just me downvoting you, pal.
Edit: lmao
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Downvotes are publicly visible, it's not a conspiracy, it's mathematics.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 2y
Who need a chill pill brother.