Senators offer bill to block any U.S. president from leaving NATO

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/senators-offer-bill-block-any-us-president-leaving-nato-2023-07-12/

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001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 98 pts · 3y (4 replies)
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betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 3y (2 replies)

We had a pretty good run relying on an expectation that there'd be a responsible, competent adult in the White House.

hamster@kbin.social · 31 pts · 3y (1 reply)

We've had incompetent people in the White House, they just weren't also complete crooks.

There1snospoon7491@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 3y

Or were far more accomplished at hiding their crookedness and knowing when not to be a public jackass.

admiralteal@kbin.social · 26 pts · 3y

Treaties specifically require approval in the Senate. It's in the Constitution.

A non-corrupt court system would not permit a President to enter or exit a treaty without Senate confirmation.

dhork@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 3y (6 replies)

I'm surprised all treaties aren't handled this way. We have such a high bar to approve them for a reason, it seems silly to not have a similarly high bar to leave them.

vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 3y (5 replies)

I do understand why you would want to be able to exit fast. I think it makes sense for the individual country as a safety net in case whatever deal you've entered goes south.

...but having a system in place to ensure that the majority agrees with that decision is important.

Nougat@kbin.social · 21 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Amy Coney Barrett proves that the US legislature can move fast whenever it wants to.

TechyDad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y

And now I'm picturing a Republican Congress and Presidency being voted out by the people, only to have the exiting Congress pass a "We Hereby Exit From All Treaties" bill, signed by the President before the changeover happens. All to leave the incoming Democratic Congress/President with a huge foreign relations mess to clean up.

Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y (2 replies)
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magnetosphere@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y (1 reply)

You give “the dumbest of the dumb” more credit than I would.

Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3y
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drturtle@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 3y

It has bipartisan support in the senate, but who knows what the republican-controlled house will do. This bill basically exists to prevent Trump or another republican president from fucking around with U.S. and global security.

ShakyPerception@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 3y (3 replies)

I mean…. well done? Way to not allow anyone idiot completely fuck everything up.

Igloojoe@kbin.social · 6 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Definitely will stop any republican bought by Russia from trying to dismantle NATO.

Now whether this bill will actually pass..

magnetosphere@kbin.social · 9 pts · 3y (1 reply)

The fact that it allegedly has “strong bipartisan support” gives me cautious hope.

Neato@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y

It's a bill that unilaterally gives the Legislature additional power at the expense of the Executive. Congress will probably approve it because they'd become more relevant.

Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 3y
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TokenBoomer@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 3y

Trump’s still the President, loophole.