Did they really? I just looked it up and it looks exactly the same... It seems like it's just a rerelease but like why? Weren't there still people playing the original battlefront 2 with mods and shit?
I could totally see why there would be a market for it with updated online functionality, a graphical refresh, and a balance pass. The games are still really fun, but their age does make it a little bit of a hassle to play them compared to more modern counterparts. They could also have added a few things like making galactic conquest mode playable online, and maybe some mod management, for example. I'd have been pretty tempted by that. Unfortunately what they did instead seems to have been steal some stuff from a modder and bugger all else
has been met with poor reviews due to its price and performance. As a result, the FPS game’s player count is dwindling quickly, now dipping below 100 Steam users.
It was a horrid mess of a lazy release, also stole content from modders.
I’m sure they’ll use this to say people don’t want to buy old games rather than admit they did a shit job and wanted to make bank for it.
The Darkforces remaster looks to be amazing though. I’ll be picking that up at some stage, can’t justify a $43 price tag for a 30 year old title so I’ll wait for a sale.
I'm not the OP, but I don't feel like it would affect the process of harvesting your data or put some burden on the company doing it, since they have big bucks. But at the same time I'm not against it for it can lead to many humorous examples of AI putting this license after it's replies after learning on your content. It would be the platinum tier absurdity and I'm all for it.
It's superstitious clutter. Most websites require you to license the content you post to them without those restrictions, and AI training may not even involve copyright in the first place, meaning the license is moot. It just makes you look silly.
The equivalent of this but for nerds and it's just as effective
Hell, they can't even be bothered to self host so they can at least pretend to have some kind of ownership over what they share on Lemmy and they admit to not having any plan to actually check if their data is used by AI companies, that's how ridiculous this is.
What is this link in your posts? I’m reading the site but I don’t understand what it is really.
I'm licensing my comments with a Creative Commons license, so that if anyone wants to use them to train their AI models/bots with, they have to at the very least give citation to that.
I'm hoping it's a way of deterring bot activity on my comments. It's something that I saw someone else doing, so I decided to emulate it, since it's just a simple copy and paste, and if it works, it's worth the momentary paste.
Plus it's really interesting that its gotten a lot of positive and negative feedback. Some people really get bent out of shape seeing it being there, and others just have a natural curiosity about it. So it's kind of interesting to see that as well, just by using it.
Honestly, I wasn't going to worry about that, I'm just doing a quick copy and paste, and moving on. If it works, it works.
I'm making the assumption that any AI model building developer who sees the license notation would honor the the Creative Commons license.We software developers usually care about those things, especially the open source style protecting ones.
Otherwise I will just wait for years from now when Congress creates new disclosure legislation. Companies are already starting to get pissed off at each other about who's paying who, and who's using what content to program their AI models with, and they find out who those other people are that is using their content. I'm pretty sure lobbying efforts are on going right now, and legislation will come out soon enough.
After that legislation exists, I can go back to all my comments and sue the companies, once those AI model building companies have to disclose their data source. I'm retired, I have time on my hands.
You're just like boomers on Facebook copy pasting a comment on their wall to say that Meta can't monetize their data.
If AI is trained on Lemmy content it will just scrub the site, convert it to raw text, chew the data and use it to spit out answers to stupid questions, your link will change fuck dick to that and even you are admitting that you don't intend to do anything about it.
The only way to make sure AI isn't trained on what you're writing is to have a journal that you share with no one.
82 Comments
mentalNothing@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 2y
Finally! My chance to be top 100 in the world at something!
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 2y
You're top 100 in my heart. ❤️
ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Ha gaaaayyyyyyy
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
You rang?
bastion@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 2y
His actual reasoning:
Anyone who puts me in the top 100 in their heart is not to be trusted.
Melkath@kbin.social · 91 pts · 2y
There is a SW Battlefront that is a month old?
Skua@kbin.social · 48 pts · 2y
They remastered the 2004/2005 Pandemic ones and apparently did a fucking terrible job of it
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 2y
Did they really? I just looked it up and it looks exactly the same... It seems like it's just a rerelease but like why? Weren't there still people playing the original battlefront 2 with mods and shit?
Skua@kbin.social · 9 pts · 2y
I could totally see why there would be a market for it with updated online functionality, a graphical refresh, and a balance pass. The games are still really fun, but their age does make it a little bit of a hassle to play them compared to more modern counterparts. They could also have added a few things like making galactic conquest mode playable online, and maybe some mod management, for example. I'd have been pretty tempted by that. Unfortunately what they did instead seems to have been steal some stuff from a modder and bugger all else
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 2y
Yeah I'd love that. I honestly still play the PS2 version from time to time just to play galactic conquest
all-knight-party@kbin.run · 5 pts · 2y
It's not a remaster. It's just a repackaging and rerelease. As per usual with Aspyr's work they did the bare minimum, if you can even consider it that
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 2y
Thats pretty brutal.
Does anyone know why this is?Edit: Never mind. From the article...
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 2y
It was a horrid mess of a lazy release, also stole content from modders.
I’m sure they’ll use this to say people don’t want to buy old games rather than admit they did a shit job and wanted to make bank for it.
The Darkforces remaster looks to be amazing though. I’ll be picking that up at some stage, can’t justify a $43 price tag for a 30 year old title so I’ll wait for a sale.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
That's not cool at all.
Edit: Do people actually feel that it's okay for a company to steal content from the modders?
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 16 pts · 2y
What is this link in your posts? I'm reading the site but I don't understand what it is really.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 2y
KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y
Well that's dumb
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 2y
Why?
What's wrong with attaching a Creative Commons license to your comments?
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 2y
Brought to you by Carl's Jr
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 2y
I'm not the OP, but I don't feel like it would affect the process of harvesting your data or put some burden on the company doing it, since they have big bucks. But at the same time I'm not against it for it can lead to many humorous examples of AI putting this license after it's replies after learning on your content. It would be the platinum tier absurdity and I'm all for it.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 2y
It's superstitious clutter. Most websites require you to license the content you post to them without those restrictions, and AI training may not even involve copyright in the first place, meaning the license is moot. It just makes you look silly.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 2y
So strange how some people get really bent out of shape seeing it.
If someone is going to use my content to build their AI model and train their bots, then I want compensation for it.
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)pennomi@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
stembolts@programming.dev · 11 pts · 2y
I only want my data to be used to be used to generate dialog for gay furry porn.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
Are you a lawyer? Are you familiar with the Creative Commons license?
If not, please feel free to get back to us after you get your degree, and let us all know what the final word is on this.
Oh I would love that, if they paid me to use my content, under terms that I would agree for it to be used (betterment of Humankind, etc.).
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)stembolts@programming.dev · 10 pts · 2y
It might seem silly to most but all it takes for something to become real is for the public to demand it. And if those in power won't help, oust them.
At least this person demands something novel and positive for the user. What is fiction today can become reality tomorrow.
Seems harmless at worst and positive at best.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
Love your username! Is that a Deep Space Nine reference?
Edit: I've been ghosted by Rom. 😋AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)Kecessa@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 2y
The equivalent of this but for nerds and it's just as effective
Hell, they can't even be bothered to self host so they can at least pretend to have some kind of ownership over what they share on Lemmy and they admit to not having any plan to actually check if their data is used by AI companies, that's how ridiculous this is.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 2y
Pointing to a reply on the same subject, instead of duplicating it.
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
That's no reply but thanks for linking it, I guess.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Trying not to copy-and-paste is all. That links to a comment of mine that answered the same point you made from someone else.
But then again, considering people are having problems with links, I could see how clicking on it might be problematic.
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y
I'm licensing my comments with a Creative Commons license, so that if anyone wants to use them to train their AI models/bots with, they have to at the very least give citation to that.
I'm hoping it's a way of deterring bot activity on my comments. It's something that I saw someone else doing, so I decided to emulate it, since it's just a simple copy and paste, and if it works, it's worth the momentary paste.
Plus it's really interesting that its gotten a lot of positive and negative feedback. Some people really get bent out of shape seeing it being there, and others just have a natural curiosity about it. So it's kind of interesting to see that as well, just by using it.
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)JCreazy@midwest.social · 5 pts · 2y
How are you going to prove your data was used?
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 2y
Honestly, I wasn't going to worry about that, I'm just doing a quick copy and paste, and moving on. If it works, it works.
I'm making the assumption that any AI model building developer who sees the license notation would honor the the Creative Commons license. We software developers usually care about those things, especially the open source style protecting ones.
Otherwise I will just wait for years from now when Congress creates new disclosure legislation. Companies are already starting to get pissed off at each other about who's paying who, and who's using what content to program their AI models with, and they find out who those other people are that is using their content. I'm pretty sure lobbying efforts are on going right now, and legislation will come out soon enough.
After that legislation exists, I can go back to all my comments and sue the companies, once those AI model building companies have to disclose their data source. I'm retired, I have time on my hands.
AntiCommercial-AIlicense(CCBY-NC-SA4.0)Kecessa@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
You're just like boomers on Facebook copy pasting a comment on their wall to say that Meta can't monetize their data.
If AI is trained on Lemmy content it will just scrub the site, convert it to raw text, chew the data and use it to spit out answers to stupid questions, your link will change fuck dick to that and even you are admitting that you don't intend to do anything about it.
The only way to make sure AI isn't trained on what you're writing is to have a journal that you share with no one.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
Poor performance? It's a PS2 Game, how can it have poor performance.
hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
The net code is really bad. You see opponents teleport all over the place making the act of aiming and shooting, unfun.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 2y
I didn't even know this was out, so lack of marketing may be an issue as well.
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 2y
What the hell it's been a month??
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 2y
Felt like close to 20 years to me...
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 2y
Just like the simulations
Hupf@feddit.de · 2 pts · 2y
UnpledgedCatnapTipper@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 2y
I just want to play Galactic Conquest via LAN or online.