Reflecting on the firefish/calckey "moment"

Reflecting on the firefish/calckey "moment"

which was about a year ago now, I can't help but suspect it was a small event with wider implications on the dominance of #mastodon in the #fediverse

I think it was the last chance to direct the twitter migration energy into discovering new/different fedi platforms.

And it was blown, with alt-social in a weird steady/waiting state that's smaller I suspect, than what many hoped for.

@fediverse
#firefish #calckey

cntd: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112358202238795371

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maegul@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Copying the linked thread here (cuz I stuffed it up):


So the basic story would be that mastodon's dominance is pretty entrenched and the "migration" event is mostly "over" (whatever other "events" are on their way)

But I wonder about the details of the firefish moment

I think it revealed that there are/were plenty interested in novel & different platforms. We're novelty seekers after all right. Generally, I'd wager any new platform needs some degree of novelty to "make it".

Further, its collapse showed how hard creating a new platform is.

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Firefish did well at presenting itself as "professional", capable and rich. But these were over-promises, and despite a number of people being involved or contributing, a good deal of user enthusiasm, the whole thing fell into a heap.

And that's the bit that concerns me. How many people/teams are there both capable and willing to put up a good, successful and sustainable platform?

The #firefish lesson may be that the fediverse just hasn't attracted a healthy building culture/personnel. 3/3

Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 2y (6 replies)

To me, FireFish got replaced by IceShrimp. Good looking interface, nice features (Antenna) and regular releases.

maegul@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Yea it’s descendant too. There’s also sharkey and catodon too.

Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 2y (4 replies)

IIRC, Catodon development is currently halted (https://catodon.social/notes/9rl77swzw25jjq7x).

Sharkey I don't know

There really is a whole *keys forks lore ha ha

Subversivo@lemmy.eco.br · 2 pts · 2y (3 replies)

The problem is that Misskey code is bad. This is the main reason the forks exist at all. Iceshrimp is rewriting from scratch in C# and it's my main hope for the *keys.

maegul@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I did not know this about iceshrimp and c#! Any links to their reasoning etc?

Subversivo@lemmy.eco.br · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Sorry anout the delay. The siteis iceshrimp.net

maegul@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y

Huh. Thanks!!

Emperor@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 2y

I'm on a Firefish instance and have been really enjoying the features but the constant *key forks and failures means I am not exactly committing myself to it (I also have a Mastodon account). However, I am also not the biggest micro-blogger as that needs brevity. Perhaps when/if I find the right home that'll change.