Climbers have turned Mount Everest into a high-altitude garbage dump, but sustainable solutions are within reach
https://theconversation.com/climbers-have-turned-mount-everest-into-a-high-altitude-garbage-dump-but-sustainable-solutions-are-within-reach-226073
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
Some of the trash and human shit, maybe, but I think they're never going to get the dead bodies down. Even the article suggests that probably won't happen.
ptz@dubvee.org · 11 pts · 2y
Some of them are used as landmarks, so they'd have to haul up new signage if they did manage to bring all the corpses down.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
I wouldn't say "let's replace this dead body landmark with a sign" is the worst thing to do in general, but maybe on Everest...
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
We can sustainably shoot anyone who attempts to climb the mountain
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Sustainable how? Isn't like the entire economy of the region based on the tourism that comes from Everest?
DampSquid@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 2y
Just give them a heady mix of psychedelics, push them out into the snow and tell them they did it then
meleecrits@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
You mean I've been a mountain climber for years?!
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Possibly.
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BruceTwarzen@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
They can loot these assholes
Keaipo@fedia.io · 9 pts · 2y
Carry in, carry out with realistic clean up fees for what refuse isn't returned, along with ban from future access to the mountain.
tal@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 2y
That seems like it'd create misincentives. Leave base camp carrying an extra 18 pounds of material, cache it shortly above base camp, pick it up on the way back.
I'm not sure how much impact that's going to have.
That might mitigate some of the trash burning, but I don't think that the core problem is really dealing with trash at the base camp, but the fact that littering happens above it.
I feel like this is kind of missing the point. Everest has a littering problem. But from a carbon dioxide emissions standpoint, the base camp at Everest is, globally, a minimal factor. Carbon dioxide is a global concern, and there are places to reduce carbon dioxide emissions that provide a much larger bang for the buck.
I feel like Nepal would do better to just charge a "garbage collection" tax and then allocate that however they see as most-efficient to removal.
I'm also not sure that packing the trash out on a human back is necessarily the most-efficient-way to move it out. The air is thin, harder for things to fly up there, but you can build things that fly up there. Here's a modified DJI Mavic 3 drone flying over Everest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9oI3B6v4c
It might be preferable to just reimburse people some amount if the trash they take in gets bagged in some kind of high-vis container with a radio beacon and attachment points. Then just let them leave it on the mountain, same as they had been, but prepared for transport. Have a fleet of high-powered, large quadcopters fly up and haul them out (on "trash pickup" days, to minimize exposure to people using the trail). Doesn't need to be UAVs at the kind of price point that we're talking about; can have humans pilot them remotely.
I mean, it's 2024. Amazon has just finished their test "drone delivery" plan and is starting their broader drone delivery rollout. Heavier air cargo movement is a thing.
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