Norway puts all its oil money into a national trust it uses to improve the quality of life for its citizens like provide free education. The US government says its illegal to cancel student debt.
Thanks for the link. So the Oil Fund seems no different than any other countries pension fund, with the exception that it relies heavy on 25 particular U.S. oil companies and hopes they remain profitable.
Sure, but the US starts and supports a lot more wars than any other country and wastes as many tax dollars on it as the next ten countries combined, so it's fair to single them out.
Basically all wars start (and end) out of economic interests (which come in a wide variety, eg land, easier enforced economic policies over another country, colonialism with military bases, or even just pain old money spent on war industry).
Basically all wars start (and end) out of economic interests
I would dispute this very strongly, unless you simplify 'economic interests' to mean anything and everything that brings gain to anyone, at which case a politician starting a war solely for PR to stay in power would count as doing so for 'economic interests'.
True, but even politicians can't start a war without incentivizing a whole machine of people to do it. And that power needs to come from somewhere and kept being fed.
The victor never really (or voluntary) leaves the spoils, or the land.
It is not all that bad. Wealth creation needs peace, rule of law and happy to spend consumers. I would be more afraid some ideological guy leading country towards what his ideology says it must be.
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lewdian69@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 2y
That's not hard to swallow. It's shoved down our throats daily.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Rolder@reddthat.com · 21 pts · 2y
Isn’t every single nation known to man making decisions that best serve themselves?
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 2y
Norway puts all its oil money into a national trust it uses to improve the quality of life for its citizens like provide free education. The US government says its illegal to cancel student debt.
Rolder@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 2y
But the post is about foreign policy not internal policy
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one · -5 pts · 2y
People keep saying this but never providing proof this is true.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 2y
I know google sucks now but it isn't hard to find facts online. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one · -1 pts · 2y
Thanks for the link. So the Oil Fund seems no different than any other countries pension fund, with the exception that it relies heavy on 25 particular U.S. oil companies and hopes they remain profitable.
Great sounds good for the environment...
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
archomrade@midwest.social · -1 pts · 2y
I think I told someone the other day that nobody was suggesting liberals supported imperialist activities on the basis of their liberal ideology
I think I owe that person an apology
GBU_28@lemm.ee · 19 pts · 2y
Replace US with anyone.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Sure, but the US starts and supports a lot more wars than any other country and wastes as many tax dollars on it as the next ten countries combined, so it's fair to single them out.
FunkyMonk@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y
but picking on the new guy is so easy.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Go ahead and try, China and Russia combined can't do it.
No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de · 16 pts · 2y
very easily swallows the pill, as this has been known for decades and is the same literally everywhere
archomrade@midwest.social · 0 pts · 2y
We can't help but involve ourselves in international atrocities. What are we supposed to do when they obviously benefit our capitalistic interests??
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 2y
Wait, was that different in any point in time?
Basically all wars start (and end) out of economic interests (which come in a wide variety, eg land, easier enforced economic policies over another country, colonialism with military bases, or even just pain old money spent on war industry).
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I would dispute this very strongly, unless you simplify 'economic interests' to mean anything and everything that brings gain to anyone, at which case a politician starting a war solely for PR to stay in power would count as doing so for 'economic interests'.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
True, but even politicians can't start a war without incentivizing a whole machine of people to do it. And that power needs to come from somewhere and kept being fed.
The victor never really (or voluntary) leaves the spoils, or the land.
nehal3m@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
From the outside looking in I eat this pill so much it's easy to swallow nowadays.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Also AIPAC
MataVatnik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I wish, then the US would actually do what needs to be done
archomrade@midwest.social · 2 pts · 2y
The free market will save us
No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
"By the capitalistic short term intrests of its politicians"
MataVatnik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That makes more sense
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
I also know only the very basics of foreign policy. I guess when workers rise up and seize the means of production it’ll be a moot point.
“What do you have to lose?” - Donald Trump
archomrade@midwest.social · 0 pts · 2y
much complicated, very nuance
MxM111@kbin.social · -5 pts · 2y
It is not all that bad. Wealth creation needs peace, rule of law and happy to spend consumers. I would be more afraid some ideological guy leading country towards what his ideology says it must be.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
All the wars for oil and other resources would disagree.
So would the obscene profits of the military industrial complex.
MxM111@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
Sure, but nothing compares with WW2 and many wars triggered by the Cold War.
archomrade@midwest.social · 2 pts · 2y
"Stay still and let the peace sweep over you"